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I'm not sure that the flywheel is actually dished. The service bulletin just refers to the surface being special which is probably related to a crosshatch pattern in the finish and most shops cut flywheels straight. We this in the brake rotors as well now. I don't know for sure but maybe some of the jeep experts could answer this, maybe jeep did something special to try soften drive train shock like the dual mass flywheel on ford's powerstroke and most of the exotic german cars.

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I can only speak from my ONE experience in the other flywheel post... I have read on other forums it was machined concaved for softer clutch engagement. I think the reason machining causes problems is because the flex plate must have been machined to match the concaved flywheel. But I really don’t know what’s causing my clutch issue since I not only did the clutch but swapped in a NV4500 at the same time.

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I would really like to get to the bottom of this cause no one seems to really know the deal on the concaved flywheels. I have been looking up Part numbers on www.partsamerica.com and it seems once the 4.0's/2.5's went MPFI the flywheel changed maybe they are the only ones with the concaved surface? I'm pretty sure the renix and HO starters are the same so it probably has the same amount of teeth on the ring gear. The part #'s listed are for 4.0 flywheels are....

 

1988 MJ Part No. 501004

 

1990 MJ Part No. 501004

 

1991 YJ Part No. 501002

 

1992 YJ Part No. 501002

 

1993 YJ Part No. 501002

 

1994 YJ Part No. 501002

 

1995 XJ Part No. 501002

 

And Part #'s for 2.5 flywheels...

 

1989 MJ Part No. FRA118

 

1990 MJ Part No. FRA118

 

1991 MJ Part No. 501008

 

1992 MJ Part No. 501008

 

1993 YJ Part No. 501008

 

1994 YJ Part No. 501008

 

1997 TJ Part No. 501008

 

1999 TJ Part No. 501008

 

I don’t know if this proves anything but I thought it was kind of interesting. I'm guessing you could get away machining the Pre '91 flywheels.

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That change also marks when CDX finally decided to do some major changes on the Jeeps they were still producing. They made the CDX instead of half amc and half CDX. Just some info i discovered while writing a jeep history research paper in High school. ;)

 

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The number of teeth is the same, but the "tone ring" for the EFI is different. HO has 1 style ('91 up), Renix another, and earlier ones (or YJ without EFI) don't have a ring for EFI. NAPA also sells the new flywheels under the same part numbers.

 

 

I would really like to get to the bottom of this cause no one seems to really know the deal on the concaved flywheels. I have been looking up Part numbers on www.partsamerica.com and it seems once the 4.0's/2.5's went MPFI the flywheel changed maybe they are the only ones with the concaved surface? I'm pretty sure the renix and HO starters are the same so it probably has the same amount of teeth on the ring gear. The part #'s listed are for 4.0 flywheels are....

 

1988 MJ Part No. 501004

 

1990 MJ Part No. 501004

 

1991 YJ Part No. 501002

 

1992 YJ Part No. 501002

 

1993 YJ Part No. 501002

 

1994 YJ Part No. 501002

 

1995 XJ Part No. 501002

 

And Part #'s for 2.5 flywheels...

 

1989 MJ Part No. FRA118

 

1990 MJ Part No. FRA118

 

1991 MJ Part No. 501008

 

1992 MJ Part No. 501008

 

1993 YJ Part No. 501008

 

1994 YJ Part No. 501008

 

1997 TJ Part No. 501008

 

1999 TJ Part No. 501008

 

I don’t know if this proves anything but I thought it was kind of interesting. I'm guessing you could get away machining the Pre '91 flywheels.

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what about the pressure plate? does it need to be convex on the side that faces the flywheel? i just remembered, my 88 mj has an ax15, not stock in it. so i better get the exact yr of motor, an transmission before i buy anything. i put urethane motor mounts in it, and bought a urethane tranmission mount. but the transmission mount is to big. the junk yard writing says its off a ax15, but what yr? or what vehicle? i have the urethane mount i will sell cheap,$20.00. so i need to find out what its out of. buy the way there is a little vibration, but the directness of engagement is more than worth it. but i really need the urethane trans mount. replace all three or none at all. i can feel the trans go up an down when i shift. not bad, but i'm a perfectionist.

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I would really like to get to the bottom of this cause no one seems to really know the deal on the concaved flywheels.

Me too- That's why I've been laying a machinist's straightedge across a lot of jeep flywheels and pressure plates lately. New, used, MJ, XJ; they have all been flat as can be. I'm not saying that the FSM doesn't say as it has been quoted, or that it is wrong. But I'm starting to think that the concave surface might have been an idea that didn't catch on or didn't have the intended long term benefits someone might have hoped for. Some of them are 20 years old now.

Go to your favorite parts house and lay a good edge across the flywheel they would sell you. Or, check your own next time it's out.

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The '91 and later flywheels are different because the flywheel incorporates the teeth that trigger the CPS, and the pattern is very different for the Chrysler injection system than for the Renix system. That's why if you drop an HO engine into a Renix chassis, unless you swap out the complete computer and wiring harness you have to use the original Renix flywheel ... so it'll trigger the CPS.

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The '91 and later flywheels are different because the flywheel incorporates the teeth that trigger the CPS, and the pattern is very different for the Chrysler injection system than for the Renix system. That's why if you drop an HO engine into a Renix chassis, unless you swap out the complete computer and wiring harness you have to use the original Renix flywheel ... so it'll trigger the CPS.

 

That's what I was trying to say when I said "tone ring". I was just about on my way to work and typing too fast!

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The '91 and later flywheels are different because the flywheel incorporates the teeth that trigger the CPS, and the pattern is very different for the Chrysler injection system than for the Renix system. That's why if you drop an HO engine into a Renix chassis, unless you swap out the complete computer and wiring harness you have to use the original Renix flywheel ... so it'll trigger the CPS.

 

That's what I was trying to say when I said "tone ring". I was just about on my way to work and typing too fast!

I knew that but I wasn't sure if everyone could translate so I thought I'd just tack on a layer of redundancy :)

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