87manche Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 SO who has stock ride height info? I'm looking for hub to fender measurements. I bought the truck with 31s and I think it may have an AAL. How many leaves are in the stock pack? Still trying to learn about the mj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj_lover Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 i belive there are 4 leafs, could be wrong, 31's should fit in a stocker. no clue on the stock ride hight, there is 1.5" diff between my 88 and 91 (88 is higher), given it was a 2.5 stick, compared to the 4.0L auto (heavier) i'm done rambling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 yeah, they fit, but I've been looking at pictures and mine seems to sit higher than xjs I've seen on stock suspension and 31s. I counted the leaf pack. It's got 4 regular leaves, and then another that is shaped funny I assume thats the overload spring. I suppose it just sits a whole lot higher than a cherokee, and since I've not found any pics with 31s and a stock suspension on an mj I just though it was big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROADLESS Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Our 89 Pioneer longbed has 4 leafs including the overload spring. It still has the stock tires 215/75/15. Hub to fender measure is 19 inches. Is this what you are looking for :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Yes, thanks. Now I can measure my hub to fender and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjblue Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 my leaf packs are the same, 4 w/ overload, stock lift measurements almost the same, right around 19" only a little shorter up front and taller out back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 well, I'm probably going to BB it, since the passenger side leaf spring has a bit of a sag in it. So I might as well just go up 2" if I have to replace the leaf pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XJ Maki Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Was there an option for an MJ with a taller stance than normal, like the 'up country' package for XJ's? Was the Metric Ton bigger at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I don't think so. I tink the only options for the MJ were trim levels and the 2 engines. Also there was a Metric ton package, but I have yet to see one to measure one. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I've got an 86 Metric Tonne and if there's any height difference between it and a stock 4x4, it seem to be not so much a "design" difference as much as it is due to the stiffer leaf packs not sagging as much over the years. I can't get you measurements though as there is about 1000 pounds of stuff in the back and I'm not about to unload it right now. :roll: Metric Tonne MJs have a 5 leafs total in their packs including the overload leaf. Oh, and 4x4 MJs have about an inch more height than 2wds. 30 inch tires are the generally accepted limit for stock MJs, 2wd or 4wd. A 3inch lift is needed for 31s. Jeep on! --Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Also keep in mind.. XJ lift shackles under 1" of gained lift won't do you any good on a MJ. I have found that full size Chevy lowering shackles work nicely for lift shackle though. Mine measure 93/4" eye to eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 if I do it, I'll do the dakota/s10 leaf pack rebuild. My leafs are pretty much shot I think. I'll just mix and match till I get the height I want. I might shoot for 3" and then put 3" coils up front. Do you think I'll run into any driveline problems with a 3"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Our 89 Pioneer longbed has 4 leafs including the overload spring. It still has the stock tires 215/75/15. Hub to fender measure is 19 inches. Is this what you are looking for :?: 19" is low. I've measured a lot of them and they average around 20-1/2 to 21, center of hub to bottom lip of flare. Standard springs were 4-leaf. Metric Ton package got 6-leaf springs, IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 My 86 Metric Tonne leafpacks have 5 leafs total. Jeep on! --Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regger Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 19" is low. I've measured a lot of them and they average around 20-1/2 to 21, center of hub to bottom lip of flare. Standard springs were 4-leaf. Metric Ton package got 6-leaf springs, IIRC Actually I would say that 19" is high.. I just went out and measured the rear of my 88, and measured 27"... Thats with a 4" lift springs, 2" shackle and a spring over on a D44... That should equate to roughly 11" of lift... so I would say that the stock measurement should be around 16-17"... HTH Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 27=the big by the way, that's impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regger Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 27=the big by the way, that's impressive. Thanks, but I don't think its that big.. That should be enough to clear 36" Swampers.. which is all that I need. But i guess in comparison to a stock truck it is high.. I just havent grasped the different yet as its still in the garage awaiting the front axle to be finished... has anyone else grabbed some measurements from stock? I'm just wondering if we should be try and take a measurement from the top of an axle tube to the underside of the frame or something. I'm thinking that mayeb the flares could be slightly different or cause differences in measurement? I just don't think I have 8" of lift (based on the 19" measurement) if I have a spring over (at least 5" of guaranteed lift), plus 2" shackle (guaranteed lift), and then my 4" springs (not guaranteed, but with 2 AAL's could not have sagged 3"). I had 6" of assumed lift before the SOA on the D44, and that cleared 33"s nicely, and I can tell there is more height now then before as the 35's are almost lost in the wheel wells... I also had a 3" front coil spring, and 3" spacer up front, and the truck sat pretty level. Now with the new 8" springs up front but with 33's, (should only account for 1" difference in height compared to the 35') the truck has a serious front end rake problem!! And I measured 3" difference to the fender flares from front to back.. so I should be pretty close... Although... all this could be blown out of the water if my truck was below stock height from the beginning.... Man I wish I took measurements of before and after and not just pictures...DOH... Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmike86 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I know i didnt start this post but, does anyone happen to know the stock ride height for the front of an 1986 comanche 2.5l I4?? and can you offer any suggestions for upgraded springs on a 4.0 or 5.7 swap?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsonpowerstroke Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 check out this pic for reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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