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More poking, more testing. Went over the cooling system pretty thoroughly and it appears everything is in order. I'm not getting bubbles in the pressure tank (head gasket/exhaust leakage), and while the color isn't perfect, it's green. No chunky bits or 'milkshake' as I've heard it described for a head gasket issues. Despite this it happily climbs up to 200F, 220F with moderate hills and broke ~230F with a sustained hill and I quite pushing it at that point. On a positive note when the transmission temp read 220F and falling at idle, the upper radiator hose held at 165F with an IR thermometer. I think this supports the idea that the cooling system is in fact working, but the transmission will overheat them both if allowed to.

Did a bunch of reading up on the cooling system in general last night and some things of note. First, I reread my manual and found I have not been filling the pressure tank to the right level, just under what it should be but possibly enough low to cause problems. Doh! This is my first closed system radiator. Second, reading some threads on here one thing stuck out. I've heard a gurgling noise after shutting the truck off that seems to indicate air in the system, possibly from either running low or a leak in the system. So as the truck seems to be doing fine until it inevitably overheats I'm going to start focusing on cooling system. Just idly poking around yesterday the large hose running from the engine block to the radiator (towards the left) leaked a bit if I wiggled it around. Not sure if that is high or low pressure (<sucking air) side but assume if it's leaking other parts could be too. As a start I'm going do a flush and fill. I've got a vacuum pump to degas but not sure were to do that from, the pressure tank seems to be the top so unless suggested otherwise I'll pull from there.

Oh, maybe I misunderstood that, are you actually talking about the pressure tank?

Yup. The head gasket went out on my Subaru (as they do) and blew out a seam on the radiator where the aluminum cap is crimped to the plastic body. I was about 300 miles from home, at a friends cabin, with limited supplies but found some JB weld in his shop. I forget what I cleaned it with, but remember it not being as strong a solvent as I would have wanted. Held for 2 month, probably would have even longer if I'd kept a better eye on levels... But it went again, thankfully we'd finally found someone to do that and other 120k work.

Doesn't seem to have any slack and there is no discernible difference in cable tension between no gas and full gas. Another thing I forgot to note, while it did still unfortunately overheat the filter replacement did seem to address sluggish shifting.... until it overheated.

I changed the filter and installed a temp sensor (what a pain) and sadly it's still overheating. Did a repeat of last weekends drive and it failed about the same point. What's worse is because the dual radiator system or what ever its called it's overheating the entire engine. Really bummed about this, what a stupid mistake to make and potentially (likely?) kill my transmission.

Alright, dropped the pan on the truck and immediately the filter jumps out as looking clogged compared to 'backup plan'. And I guess one of the previous owners hated magnets because those have been removed. And unfortunately this time I did see 'star dust' metal flake. Not sure if I missed it last time (it is much sunnier now) or if its because I overheated it again on Saturday. Not sure where to go from here, I've got a new filter and gasket but it seems like the overheating could have damaged either the pump or torque converter. I think the pump can be inspected without a complete teardown but don't think TC can be inspected at all. This sound about right? Anyone want to weigh in on the audio I posted before? If the pump does go out will it make noise?

I also checked the trans fuse just in case. It's fine.

hey, all I'm sayin' is, I'm super glad I only paid $4k and hope some day I can do it again.

I've got most of tomorrow off so I'm planning to drop my pan and have a look see. In the meantime I've cleaned the worst of the crud off the 'new' AW4 and pulled it's pan off. Nothing seemed immediately amiss, didn't smell burnt, no metal flakes, pan and magnets didn't look too different from what I've seen in other pictures. Some of that even looks red Note the finger wipe on the filter MMmm, forbidden transmission chocolate. Will post an update tomorrow on what mine looks like but this one I'm calling backup plan...

I'm guessing next thing I need to do is drop the pan and have a look at the internals, filter, solenoids and such. In the meantime, I did just jump on the other AW4 I found, on account of it be close and if I do end up needing one I don't want to have to scramble. Not sure if it's worth the price, but I'm sure I'm going to learn a ton for having a second one I can tear apart. It's said to have 168k on it (compared to 238k on mine) and was dropped by the PPO (not who I bought it from) for an AX15 conversion that never was completed. I bought it from the new owner who's finishing the conversion. So... as I'm cleaning and inspecting that I'm going to keep digging into my current AW4 to see if there is any glimmer of hope for it. Below is a recording I was finally able to make now that power steering is fixed. One of the recording sounds more metallic than it is in reality. I'm going to try draining the fluid today to recheck for metal flakes. My rather uneducated guess is that sound is the pump, which is why I'm not getting proper cooling. transwhine1.mp3 transwhine2.mp3

Just had that kit arrive yesterday and hoping to install it later this week. fwiw, jegs.com has it for a couple bucks cheaper, mine was $99 shipped.

Every time another pops up for $10k+ in CA I feel better and better about the $4k I paid. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/pacifica-jeep-comanche-i6-manual-4x4/7294828604.html

Or I guess more likely at this point is the pump is blown.

Welp, that didn't go great. We made it 14 miles /w 2000ft before it started slipping again... The fluid looked fine but had a hint of burnt smell like it had before. The switch is broken and the light is always on. I'll check the fuse later today. I used the opportunity to thoroughly test this and for a minute thought it was going to be the solution but climbing back up to the house it eventually started slipped again. It really feels like the transmission is badly overheating. Could the original low fluid overheating event clogged or otherwise damaged the cooler line?

Yup, that's what I did. I've done it again and verified it is moving 1/16th

Hmmm, so with it all the way in, this procedure doesn't seem to do much if anything. Completely flooring it moved MAYBE an 1/8th " but I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't actually move.

Hail yeah Jeep! Before it started I was looking at the TVC and the plunger(?) was full in. Stopped so going to adjust it now.

WIll be done before the drive but as it just started hailing.... it'll be a minute...

ok I see. I'll have a look and probably worth noting it feels like the shifting is fine, but if anything, maybe doesn't shift back to a lower gear as early as it should. We've been putting off a long drive (and missing out on quality adventure) for long enough.... this afternoon we're heading out for a bit under 400 miles weekender. Wish us luck!

I'm going to get out there for some work in an hour and will have a look at this. What's the idea here, that fluid isn't actually being fully circulated?

Welp, with a little mix an matching, shock recommendations from friends, I managed to get all the parts without having to wait for full kits to get back into stock. Weather is improving over the next week so hope to have this in before next weekend. A buddy also just got an XJ project he's giving me the 31x10.5 off of. Rubicon Express Super-Flex /w full leafs /wo shocks D44 u-bolt kit Bilstein 5100 shocks

Figure I should put an update on this one. I still haven't pulled the pan and done the filter as I wanted to be semi-confident it was worth the effort. But after the third flush, I've made several ~20 mile trips into town and back with definitive slipping, though on the last trip I heard some whining that sounded like power steering(*) but was very much in sync with the gas pedal. It was pretty cold out and only made it on the first half of the trip and otherwise felt fine. So with that, next step is to drop the pan and do the filter. I also found another AW4 for cheap, so I'm thinking of getting it as a back/future bench rebuild. *) Power steering was also having issues during this saga but the pressure line has been replaced and it's holding fluid now.

Can you be 'locked and loaded' when you're missing door locks?

actually, Quadratec has it available without or with twin-tube shocks, but it sounds like monotube is the way to go?