fendermb4 Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I know JC Whitney used to sell one, but it looks like they don't anymore. Does anyone sell a MJ specific factory style rear step bumper? If not, does anyone sell a MJ specific non-tube style rear bumper at all? Maybe with an integrated hitch? I've seen that one tube style one, but it doesn't strike my fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I know JC Whitney used to sell one, but it looks like they don't anymore. Does anyone sell a MJ specific factory style rear step bumper? If not, does anyone sell a MJ specific non-tube style rear bumper at all? Maybe with an integrated hitch? I've seen that one tube style one, but it doesn't strike my fancy. pingpong was "gauging interest" a while back to start making some and selling them in-club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I am waitng on getting some measurements, and place a steel order. These bumpers will be built to be bashed, and will come with a reciever style hook-up as well as the option for some heavy duty d-rings. Realistically these are 2-3 months out from being available to the general public. They will be designed to sit flush with the rear of the tailgate as well, and I can also fab it so it can have intergrated rock rails. Kinda like the way Pong's rear bumber was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORCA Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 sign me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I would say that the Factory style is long gone.....JY maybe. Go with what pingpong is putting togetter You can check out this - for both tube and step style - http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList ... per+Covers And I found that IIRC, FEY has a diamond style step after market (got one) thats listed for the MJ and the Dakota of simular years, thru a FEY dealer only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fendermb4 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 I am waitng on getting some measurements, and place a steel order. These bumpers will be built to be bashed, and will come with a reciever style hook-up as well as the option for some heavy duty d-rings. Realistically these are 2-3 months out from being available to the general public. They will be designed to sit flush with the rear of the tailgate as well, and I can also fab it so it can have intergrated rock rails. Kinda like the way Pong's rear bumber was... Are you thinking tube or box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Here's a couple shots of Pat's old bumper that I'm running on my shortbed. I had to modify it because 1) it had rock sliders and I didn't want to cut my rockers out just yet (should have, I'm stoopid) and 2) he built it for his longbed and things were in the way under my shortbed and 3) I tucked it inbetween the bedsides instead of running it outboard like Pat made it. All solved via the sawzall. Even with the sliders cut off, you still almost drop a nut trying to lift it :yes: Jeff Image Not Found Image Not Found Image Not Found Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefJosh Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 MJeff87 - That looks great- I'm just not sure where to step to climb into the bed..... I guess the tire works.... pingpong - do you have any rough sketches of what you're gonna make? I'd like to think I might be interested, but realistically, I wouldn't be interested for 2-3 months anyway..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 They are basically going to be the same style design, but instead of 2x4x1/4 "C" channel, I thought of going with 2x4x3/16 tubbing. The reciever hitch will be centered and recessed. The d-rings will be an OPtion as will the rock rails. I suppose I could make it so it doesnt sit flush, but that would require some more beef in the mounting area, and as Jeff pointed out... this thing weighed in at probrbaly close to 100pounds with the rails, and it was pure beef. Jeff if you want come on by the house and we will cut your lowers and reweld the rail portion and get you basher friendly, plus it will give me a chance to get some measurements. As for sketches.. My drawing ability sucks, and all my ideas float around in my head. All is good till I step out in the garage and start laying it out on steel, then it is on Like donkey kong :nuts: As for what to step on when climbing in the rear of the bed.... who uses their bed to carry stuff anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I made mine similar to petes, only I used the stock brackets cut down, and angle iron for the mounts on the bumper side of things. Mine is behind the sheetmetal, cause I like to back into things and wanted to try and protect my tail lights from the evil trees. you can see it in profile there. I don't have any pictures of the back of the MJ. I can get some more pics of the mounting if you want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 The way I designed my first bumper was so it sat flush with the tail gate, and I had wrap around rock rails. They worked great on my rig, but when jeff got the bumper he didnt want/need the rails on the side, thats why his is cut down. I got a bunch of ideas in my head, and as soon as Jeff and I can meet up, and I can make up a jig, you all will start seeing the different style bumpers I have in mind. I have a tube bumper in mind that will be kinda slick, and offer some corner and tail light protection, then there will be the one similar to what Jeff has now, and I have an idea for a step style bumper as well, but that will be the last one I make any of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 This is kinda a question for those who are really interested in buying a bumper. Would you all prefer it with rock rails? With D-rings or with out? The d-rings cost around 10 bucks a piece Depending on the size and weight rating Made out of "C" Channel or Rectanguler tubing? Tubing would be easier to beef up, and would naturally have a more finished look, would also be cool with the reciever mounted almost flush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 My interest is solely based on price, but idealy integrated rock rails and D rings and reciever would kick a$$! Square tube or C channel wouldnt matter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 What kinda price ar you looking at? I know everyone wants it as cheap as possible, but steel is right expensive, and so are materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I honestly don't even know where to begin with a price, but I know that when I look at the bumpers in Quadracrap's magazine that there is no way I am paying 400 for a bumper! I would rather pick up a chunk of steel cut it and weld it on myself, you know? I just don't know if my welder works... but thats a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 So far the numbers I am getting back from the steel suppliers are going to put the bumper around 250 plus shipping For a basic design. That is using 2x4x3/16 tubing, with 1/4 mounting plates, and a reciever Hitch. I would have to make the "d" rings an option that ppl would have to pay extra for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fendermb4 Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 So far the numbers I am getting back from the steel suppliers are going to put the bumper around 250 plus shipping For a basic design. That is using 2x4x3/16 tubing, with 1/4 mounting plates, and a reciever Hitch. I would have to make the "d" rings an option that ppl would have to pay extra for. At $250, I would likely buy it. I am just worried about shipping adding another $150 to that. So, why not C channel? Probably cheaper to make and ship that way. Do you need to use box because of the hitch? What about tabs where you can put your own D rings in? Isn't that how some other bumpers do it? I hope these end up getting made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQ Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 So far the numbers I am getting back from the steel suppliers are going to put the bumper around 250 plus shipping For a basic design. That is using 2x4x3/16 tubing, with 1/4 mounting plates, and a reciever Hitch. I would have to make the "d" rings an option that ppl would have to pay extra for. At $250, I would likely buy it. I am just worried about shipping adding another $150 to that. So, why not C channel? Probably cheaper to make and ship that way. Do you need to use box because of the hitch? What about tabs where you can put your own D rings in? Isn't that how some other bumpers do it? I hope these end up getting made. Count me in. $250 is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fendermb4 Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 Count me in. $250 is cheap. Yeah, I agree. Maybe a group buy scenario would help? Like, see how many people will commit to actually buy them, maybe give a deposit or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 The reason why I don't want to use "c" channel is cause while it worked great on my first design, this time I want to put the reciever in the center, it just gives more area to weld to, plus it is more finished looking, at least in my opinion. That and I went a lil thinner then I would with the "c"channel. The c channel I would go 1/4 instead of 3/16. The other main reason is... the tubing I don't use making bumpers, I could use to make rock rails out of. Kinda a dual purpose size tubing. You are right that the tubing is almost 2x the price of "c" channel per stick, but it just doesn't look finished to me. After I build one, I am going to have it weighed, and set up an account with DHL for shipping where they charge me a buisness rate, and pick it up at my door, instead of me having to tack on what it costs me to transport them to the nearest shipping center (45 or so miles away). As far as deposits go... I am buying the steel this week. I plan on making brackets next weekend after Jeff comes by and I make up a jig. The first batch of bumpers should be ready in the next month. After I make the first bumper, and figure the actual cost I will publish a price, and I will take it from there. I expect shipping to be somewhere between around 75, but it might come in less if I can ship all the bumpers at once, cause there is a pick up fee from DHL if I am not mistaken. After this comes to market, I will be making matching rock rails. To answer the question about the tabs... I can buy them locally and they are made out of 3/4 plate and are of good quality, but by the time I fit them and make them as strong as the "d" rings are and you buy a shackle it would have been cheaper to have me put the "d" rings on. That being said this is a customer driven venture, and I will do my best to customize the bumper to suit your needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Forgot to add that there is a chance I might start making a moutning system to put buckets in a MJ using XJ seats. Lastly I think a semi-bolt on front leaf conversion kit would be sick and sell well, so if there is someone somewhat local to me that is willing to help design and fab this let me know via PM so we can get together on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Lastly I think a semi-bolt on front leaf conversion kit would be sick and sell well, so if there is someone somewhat local to me that is willing to help design and fab this let me know via PM so we can get together on it. don't forget that you could also sell that one to the XJ guys, so there's probably more market than you think for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefJosh Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 I can't quite picture what you're talking about when you say rock rails. Can you help me out on that one? Any pics? (Edit) Whoops, that one went right over my head. For some reason I was thinking rock rails that tied into the rear bumper. I saw the pics on your other post...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deziped Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Just bought flat 1/4 x 6 x 36" (brackets) & tubing 1/4 x 2 x 4 x 60" (bumper) for $48. Will do fabricating & welding myself so figure by the time I buy receiver to tack on to it & nuts & bolts I should be able to come in at less than $100 for a solid nice look-un bump. Might have it power coated (think-un). Gonna tuck it under the tail-gate & bed so its not obtrusive & maybe slap some sort of small nerf bars on it to protect the tailgate when I back into cars at the mall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Wish you luck making it... post up some pics when you are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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