lift questions

[ftpiercecracker1]

plan to go SOA in the rear, sooo trying to piece together something for the front and came across these guys.

 

http://www.topguncustomz.com/p-9421-65- ... nche-.aspx

http://www.topguncustomz.com/p-9057-dro ... -lift.aspx

 

6.5 coil springs, made by RC, sold by Top gun custom, 2 for $130, figure i can get a spacer if i need a little more to level it out

they also have a 6in drop pitman arm for $70, good deal? bad?

 

when i have read about people lifting their comanche i've heard them talk about adjustable track bars and adjustable control arms, but i don't really understand what is required. Will any shock due so long as it has apropriate travel?

Also wouldnt it be called a four link in the front since there are four control arms holding the axle still? Would all of them need to be replaced?

 

i know this has been rehashed a thousand times, but i don't know how to find previous posts

[mountainman]

This will get you started on some good info.

 

http://www.rocky-road.com/comanche.html

[mvusse]

YOU DO NOT NEED A DROP PITMAN ARM!

 

There are reasons to get these, thay are almost all based on a leaf sprung front suspension. It will make the drag link not run parallel with the track bar inducing bump steer, it will also cause increased stress on the steering box bolts due to the additional leverage probably causing the bolts to rip through the frame rail.

 

That being said, yes the front suspension setup is a 4 link with panhard bar. You need all 4 longer control arms because that much lift with the stock control arms will swing the axle back too far. You also need a longer track bar (panhard bar) to center the axle back under the vehicle as with that much lift it will swing over to the driver side quite a bit.

 

Also needed are:

shocks

brake hoses

sway bar end links

 

and for the rear:

spring perches

shock mounts

brake hose

 

Also if you have a D35 rear axle a new axle.

 

A pair of springs for $130 is not a lift kit, it is one part out of many needed to do this. A complete kit for that much lift will be $1000 or more. Then you need 33" tires to make it look right which will be another $1000 or more, new rims for the tires which will be $200 or more and you're looking at spending $2200 or more.

 

There is no way to lift a Comanche that much and have it still be safely drivable for less.

 

If you're looking to run 31" tires with a bit of lift, look into a "budget boost"

[COFFMAN]

YOU DO NOT NEED A DROP PITMAN ARM!

 

There are reasons to get these, thay are almost all based on a leaf sprung front suspension. It will make the drag link not run parallel with the track bar inducing bump steer, it will also cause adjustable stress on the steering box bolts due to the additional leverage probably causing the bolts to rip through the frame rail.

 

That being said, yes the front suspension setup is a 4 link with panhard bar. You need all 4 longer control arms because that much lift with the stock control arms will swing the axle back too far. You also need a longer track bar (panhard bar) to center the axle back under the vehicle as with that much lift it will swing over to the passenger side quite a bit.

 

Also needed are:

shocks

brake hoses

sway bar end links

 

and for the rear:

spring perches

shock mounts

brake hose

 

Also if you have a D35 rear axle a new axle.

 

A pair of springs for $130 is not a lift kit, it is one part out of many needed to do this. A complete kit for that much lift will be $1000 or more. Then you need 33" tires to make it look right which will be another $1000 or more, new rims for the tires which will be $200 or more and you're looking at spending $2200 or more.

 

There is no way to lift a Comanche that much and have it still be safely drivable for less.

 

If you're looking to run 31" tires with a bit of lift, look into a "budget boost"

Well Said :thumbsup:

[Eagle]

That being said, yes the front suspension setup is a 4 link with panhard bar. You need all 4 longer control arms because that much lift with the stock control arms will swing the axle back too far. You also need a longer track bar (panhard bar) to center the axle back under the vehicle as with that much lift it will swing over to the passenger side quite a bit.

I agree with most of what was in the above post. Except ...

 

Lifting an MJ or XJ with the stock track bar actually pulls the axle over to the driver's side, not to the passenger side. Not that it really matters -- either way, the wheels will be off-center to the long axis of the vehicle and it will be impossible to properly align the tires.

[mvusse]

That being said, yes the front suspension setup is a 4 link with panhard bar. You need all 4 longer control arms because that much lift with the stock control arms will swing the axle back too far. You also need a longer track bar (panhard bar) to center the axle back under the vehicle as with that much lift it will swing over to the passenger side quite a bit.

I agree with most of what was in the above post. Except ...

 

Lifting an MJ or XJ with the stock track bar actually pulls the axle over to the driver's side, not to the passenger side. Not that it really matters -- either way, the wheels will be off-center to the long axis of the vehicle and it will be impossible to properly align the tires.

 

:thumbsup:

 

That's what I get for posting in the morning before I've had my tea. Fixed in original post.