Oizarod115 Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=rustys&Product_Code=OTK01&Category_Code=ste i know its rusty's and alot of people don't think to highly of them... but what do you think of the kit's basic ideas, i could get a shop to build me custom steering with the same ideas for probably a little less money. anything that would point you away from this kit? plan on running 33 then 35s after that, has to hold up to big rocks and some mud. TIA, -nick ps. here's some pics:
CWLONGSHOT Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Personally I do not like Heim joints for the street. Lotsa other reasons, like single shear on this style setup and thats a BIG NO-NO for heims. That and Rustys "history" is enough for me to not go with this setup. I know you have read what I have to say about JCR's 1ton conversion. I also know you said your bro has it. Why not go this route? BTW, The brown suit guy just dropped mine off today!! Woohoo!!! CW
pingpong Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 RUN from it.... make you a setup like I have on casper, and buy the Goferit set up, and do it on the cheap using 1 ton tre's. The problem with Hiems in general is they don't hold up very well in a dirty enviroment. They tend to wear out quick. If you can't find a pic of Casper on here I think I might have one, just search some of my Post to see how the setup is on it
Oizarod115 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 they have the kit available with TRE's instead of heims. that was the route i would go, i know ive read that heims die on streets pretty quick. not to mention flexing. ill search for casper... I'm just looking to have a steering setup that will not cry when i lift her more than 6" cuase i know inchitis will occur then.
Oizarod115 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 i searched around pong, found a few pics of the axles not installed, but couldnt find a good one of the steering. can you show me one of it?
pingpong Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 They aren't the best pics, but you get the idea, I will try and find the part numbers for them, or you can do a search on pirate, or a ford bronco site, cause that is where the idea came from
Oizarod115 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 basically just a regular TRE steering with beefy rods and drag link to the knuckle instead of tie-rod right? thats what the JCR steering is, so i guess ill just run with that, is theer any advantage to running over the knuckle like the rusty's kit?
pingpong Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 main advantage to OVT is more clearance.... you are less likely to bend it when it is higher up, but you can run into issues with clearance on your trac bar, and sway bar mounts
DirtyComanche Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 Heim wear is an issue if you DD it or spend a lot of street time. They'll last 'long enough' in a trail only application. As in you'll probably decide to rebuild the rig before they will actually wear out. That is providing you run the ones with an insert (teflon or such). But, for the money you can get some nice chevy 1/2 ton TREs. The ones everybody tries to sell as being 1-ton....
Oizarod115 Posted January 18, 2007 Author Posted January 18, 2007 Heim wear is an issue if you DD it or spend a lot of street time. They'll last 'long enough' in a trail only application. As in you'll probably decide to rebuild the rig before they will actually wear out. That is providing you run the ones with an insert (teflon or such). But, for the money you can get some nice chevy 1/2 ton TREs. The ones everybody tries to sell as being 1-ton.... yeah, the kit is available with TREs although i don't know if they are 1/2tons or stocker stuff... here's the quote from rusty's which sounds like they think heims are awesome... i don't like them: "We use the highest quality 3/4" greasable heims with a 5/8" hole. Score, High Desert, Corr, Scca, just about every type of race vehicle uses heim steering. For those that would rather have tie-rod ends, all of our steering conversions are available with high quality tie-rod ends as well. The quality heim joints we use are stronger than tie-rod ends and if greased regularly should last as long as tie-rod ends, even on daily driven vehicles."
CWLONGSHOT Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 Just the fact that they seem to be trying to convince you how good THEIR heims are raises a flag in my book. Like Pat already told you, you could run TRE's on top but the JCR pass side TRE will not work. When flipped the taper is wrong. All other TRE's will work fine, you just need to find the application where this taper is on the other side. Maybe BRONCO stuff??? James Duff carries lotsa Bronco goodies!! Personally I have run this JCR stuff into lotsa rocks but am yet to bend it. I KNOW I CAN, just haven't yet. I am not overly careful of my steering since the JCR install. CW
feerocknok Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 Is Anyone building their own steering? It looks super simple...
pingpong Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 It is.. if you have the tools.... RH and LH taps, and the right size DOM, and you can make your own... expect to pay a pretty penny for the LH tap, but if you make say 3 or 4 steering setups.... it would be worth it, or you can buy tubing adapters, and weld them in, and be beefy as hell
DirtyComanche Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 I'd buy the adapters. Looking at the price it isn't worth it for the taps. Especially if you want to run the 3/4-18 thread or whatever it is that the chevy TREs run - it is WEIRD.
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