jeepers Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 i have an 86 comanche x 4x4 with a HT 3.4 SHO(supercharged hi output) it cam with a puny 2.8 and an ax 5 well to sum it up 285 hp and 308 torq killed the anerexic tranny... i have a 90 ax15 from a cherokee . need a bellhousing external slave.,7 inches deep . already tried the 2.5 i4 dodge dakota bell its to deep .called up AA well all there stuff is for the 2.5 i4 also ...has any one done this or am i the first.. any help would be greatly admired :hateputers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyboy Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 The AA adapter uses your bellhousing with the AX15, other then making some bushings I don't see why it wouldn't work with a 3.4l. Do you by chance still have the dakota bellhousing? I would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 well there plate is 3/4 of an inch thats a 1/4 more than i need but i did think about shaving an 1/8 off the bell on each end . oh and that plate is on backorder till end of april Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 :thwak: ok i got my solution today at my local machine shop. thank god i know the owner well . here's what ima do ok the 96-00 dakota bellhousing ...we gona mill a 1/4 of the front,a 1/8 off the back. on the ax15..the front housing where the bell bolts up theres a 1/4 inch riser there ..it is gona get milled out for a total of 5/8 this should ..in theory give me my full spline into the clutch disk and 5/8 of an inch into the pilot bearing. I'm supposed to getit back later this week .ill try to post some pics so the rest of you 2.8 guys can stop killing those cheasy ax5s :thumbsup: as i have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 :thwak: ok i got my solution today at my local machine shop. thank god i know the owner well . here's what ima do ok the 96-00 dakota bellhousing ...we gona mill a 1/4 of the front,a 1/8 off the back. on the ax15..the front housing where the bell bolts up theres a 1/4 inch riser there ..it is gona get milled out for a total of 5/8 this should ..in theory give me my full spline into the clutch disk and 5/8 of an inch into the pilot bearing. I'm supposed to getit back later this week .ill try to post some pics so the rest of you 2.8 guys can stop killing those cheasy ax5s :thumbsup: as i have You didn't kill the AX-5 with a 2.8. Pretty hard to do that. The AX-5 isn't cheasy. Calling it such because you put more power in front of it than it was deigned to take isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 well geonofast.. you are part right. no i didnt kill it with a 2.8 (if you read the 1st post) ITS A GM PREFORMANCE HT3.4 SHO sho stands for super charged hi output ,punchn 280 hp and 308 torq to the rear wheels and have the dyno slip to prove it. the 2.8 altho dependable couldn,t pull the hat off your head. :rotfl2: granted i drove it for 9 years before a full restore. the 3.4 is 190 hp over a moded 2.8 but in a bolt in package... as for the ax5 SLUSH BOX ive had my wife kill 1 in the front yard in my rock garden . yea rock garden in lousiana. this is just my preferance and have seen many many ax5s bit the dirt on baby stuff .ask any jeeper ax15 blows ANY AX5 to **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garvin Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 AX5's are fine and dandy for the street behind the V6 or the I4 but sucks for any kind of real abuse. My buddy keeps destroying his in his 4 cyl Wrangler with 3" lift on 33's. He upgraded it to some beefy Dodge 3/4 ton truck trans cause he wasn't going to put a 4th one in. That and he's going to a 318 or 360 later and will just drop the engine in in front of that trans (removing the adapter and all those goodies first). As for AX15's, I've seen them behind ZZ350 Chevy 350's at 350hp without breaking (these guys abuse the hell out of their rigs). I have one behind my mildly built Chevy 350 (around 350-400hp) and don't have any worries about blowing that up. Hell, the only part of the drivetrain I'm afraid of is the Dana 35 in back, but blowing that up will do me a favor with speeding up the one ton axle swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 thanks garvin .. :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 well i got the bell housing and tranny front housing back today. a 3/8 off the front of the bell and 3/16 of the rear of the bell,and an 1/8 off the front of the tranny to bell housing face. i came up with my 3/4 into the end of the crankshaft as i was looking for. an 1/8 spacer behind the flywheel ,will allow mt clutch disk to be splined up 13/16 of and inch,,,almost a full spline up. i do have pic on photo bucket now for this write up and will post them tomarrow. along with a step by step write up thanks guys :wrench: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 ok i have made a 90 ax15 fit behind a 2.8/3.4 . it was alittle work but i made it happen. ok first i got a90 cherokee 4x4 trans,a 98 tj front bearing retainer and a dodge dakota 96-00 bellhousing. took the bellhousing and front trans housing to a mechine shop. had 3/8s of the front ot the bell and 3/16 off the rear of the bell .on the front of the trans i had them take off an 1/8 on the outer edge only ,leaving my bearing surfaces alone. i ordered a clutch disk from KY clutch . ok at this point you can install your ax15 behind you 2.8,3.1,3.4 and a few other motors i dare not mencion. ok now to the trans mount . i took a 3/16 plate and drilled out my trans patten and my cross member pattern into the plate. for an isolator i used 4 shock bushings and washers ,above and below the 3/16 plate. works well so far . ok now to the transfer case linkage,,, i used a 93 cherokee lower linkage(from the t case to the cross arm) bolts rite up .now the bracket that bolts up to the tranny is to short....ok turn it over and cut it in half,use the upper half of it ,bolt it to the trans using the bolts on the center of the trans.its perfict :wrench: ok now on to the input on the t case 23 splines,long shaft ,is what you need in the np207.ok by this point you can use your ax5 shifter in the trans. every thing else is a bolt up item. drive shafts front ,,will bolt back in as is,,,rear ,,remove 1 1/2 inches for mine as I'm running an amc 20 in the rear . i hope i have explained this as corretly as possable,,,if it works for me ,guess what ,it will work for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 As for AX15's, I've seen them behind ZZ350 Chevy 350's at 350hp without breaking (these guys abuse the hell out of their rigs). I have one behind my mildly built Chevy 350 (around 350-400hp) and don't have any worries about blowing that up. Hell, the only part of the drivetrain I'm afraid of is the Dana 35 in back, but blowing that up will do me a favor with speeding up the one ton axle swap. My brother blew up the AX-15 in his TJ with his first stroker. Now hes got an AX-15 "Terminator" Love how that transmission shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 love my ax15 and ht 3.4 sho combo .now i can chang my signature,now ill just be buyn tires :nuts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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