STERLING STINGER Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 any recs on ball joints to get?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motion Offroad Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Moog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 there was a link on NAXJA a couple of days ago to a place that is selling Spicers by the pair for an insanely low price, like $40 a set/side.....lemme see if I can find it (BRB). I need to order a couple sets myself. Jeff edit: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.p ... ball+joint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepcoma Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I went with the Moogs too. But looking at that $40 set, I'm now curious if I got the correct lowers. That kit lists one part number for years 85-06. Moog lists two part numbers: K3137T (before 1990) and K3161T (1990+). According to this thread, the difference in the two is the amount of taper. It looks like if you screwed up, you can still run the K3137 in the 90+ and it will just have a little gap left, but what about the other way around if you put the K3161T in the application that calls for K3137T? I just ordered parts for my '91 not knowing there was any difference, (always thought all XJ/MJ front axles were identical except gearing and HP vs LP) but my axles are out of an '88 I believe. What is the difference between the FA1633 part and the Moog that FA1633 is a universal part and the Moog isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I'd be inclined to believe there may be a small difference......a couple years ago I took my MJ in for safety inspection and the shop said the driverside upper BJ was shot and needed replaced. They spent over four hours working on it, and ended up getting the new one to "almost" seat fully. There's about a 1/8" gap between it and the knuckle (works fine though). Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW86 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 i thought you already did your ball joints??? but yeah, MOOGs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 ordered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddzz1 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I went with the Moogs too. But looking at that $40 set, I'm now curious if I got the correct lowers. That kit lists one part number for years 85-06. Moog lists two part numbers: K3137T (before 1990) and K3161T (1990+). According to this thread, the difference in the two is the amount of taper. It looks like if you screwed up, you can still run the K3137 in the 90+ and it will just have a little gap left, but what about the other way around if you put the K3161T in the application that calls for K3137T? I just ordered parts for my '91 not knowing there was any difference, (always thought all XJ/MJ front axles were identical except gearing and HP vs LP) but my axles are out of an '88 I believe. What is the difference between the FA1633 part and the Moog that FA1633 is a universal part and the Moog isn't? The upper is the same for all years but the lower is different. I found a guy with a brand new set (all 4) of moogs on craigs but they were for a newer XJ so I only got the uppers and had to buy the lowers. Not sure what the difference is. After reading the thread you linked it sounds like you may be OK but Id still prefer the correct part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 man...i got my new knuckles from 89flat...thats what the ball joints going on...i already bought them but they seem big..i guess i gotta wait for 89flat to respond to my pm to tell me what vehicle they came off of... here's some pics maybe someone can figure it out??? here's what i bought moog for 92 mj Image Not Found here's the knuckles...not sure what there from, but they fit..plus, how do i tell which side is which? Image Not Found the uppers Image Not Found the lowers Image Not Found not sure if i even have them in the right place??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddzz1 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The ball joints press into the "C" on the axle. Only the stud on the ball joint will go into the hole on the knuckles. Did you get a split ring seat with one set of the ball joints? Looks like a round metal thing. That has to be set into the "C" to a certain depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 i think there in the knuckles...i didnt get one but theres something like that in the knuckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddzz1 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 i think there in the knuckles...i didnt get one but theres something like that in the knuckle Thats weird, the Moog ones I got came with new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 ok, i got the ball joints and the new knuckles on i ran into a problem the doner knuckles are from an 87 mj. the caliper and pads on my truck are for a 92 mj the pads are a little off....they won't fit.. its hard to see, but here's a pic... does anyone know what i should do?? can i just get pads for a 87 mj and theyll fit??? i hope its that easy...someone said to just grind the pads down but i don't wanna. thanks in advanced auto! Paul Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 oh ya..my trucks in my shop at work and my boss is coming back on saturday..i don't think hed br mad, but ill owe a favor....like working the weekend...noooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepcoma Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Do you just need a brake caliper spreader, or are they already bottomed out against the sides? Hard to tell from your pic, are they too long, and that's the issue? Maybe the calipers don't interchange (I know it's true with later years), you could check part numbers online and see if they match. Also, if you ended up with '87 knuckles, shouldn't you have been using the Moog 3137 joints? The 3161s are supposedly for 90+. How did they fit? Any gaps or spaces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 there too longno gaps in the balls...seem great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 i left the new ball joints in on the passengers side.. changed the knuckle bck to the orig. 92 put everything back together until i can figure this out... :headpop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddzz1 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 there too longno gaps in the balls...seem great? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STERLING STINGER Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 there too longno gaps in the balls...seem great? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :oops: ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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