edman2007 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 So I am redoing some drum brakes on a spare XJ axle for my lift and new tires. Time to pull off the drum, and whattya know, the brake pads and everything else decide to come with it. I had already tried to loosen the shoes, but they were too stuck on it to release. Any ideas of how to get the drum off? thanks, JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Push the drums back on. Turn each drum in the reverse direction while pulling out. Are you certain the star wheels won't turn at all? How did you try screwing them in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 What axle is it? Gear ratio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edman2007 Posted May 14, 2009 Author Share Posted May 14, 2009 its just a junky D35 with 3.55 gears. Picked it up with a front axle to help out with my new 31" tires (3.07's not too good). Was gonna go through the brakes, it got stuck and started pulling out everything with it. The star wheel turned, followed the Hayne's manual on the whole drum thing. Did the star wheel and turn other way.... Just looking for some ideas of how to get the drum off. The shoes are stuck to the walls of the drum. Everything was pretty rusty inside anyways, so i was just thinking of replacing the innards and the drum with my 3.07 rear axle ones. Thanks, JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 They may not be "stuck" (meaning adhered, as with glue) as much as they may have warn a groove into the drum and are catching on the lip they created. Had that issue with my buddy's Bronco. Eventually we gave up and took it to a shop to get the whole assembly torched off and replaced them with the good assemblies from the junkyard. Even the shop couldn't get the things off the proper way. :D (makes me feel a bit better when the pros also fail) What year axles are you dealing with? Both C-clip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edman2007 Posted May 14, 2009 Author Share Posted May 14, 2009 They are off a 98 with ABS. Decent condition of the ring/pinion and everything else, except the rear left drum. The right one came off no problem. The 3.07 axles are off a 92. I paid $150 for both of the 3.55 axles and all of the stock suspenison, so I didn't really mind the D35. They only have 120k miles on them compared to the 175k of my cherokee's. The guy had a pretty sweet 98 cherokee with 6.5 longarm, SYE, 33's, 140k for $5.5K. A little out of my price range for now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Are the 9" Chrysler drums cast iron? If so, hit the outer shoulder of the drum HARD with a sledge hammer. It should shatter into 7,347 pieces. (Count 'em if you don't believe me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Well, they should both be C-clip and I'd wager a guess that you can use your old brakes if you break the assembly down far enough (no pun intended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edman2007 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'll probably just take the good ol'e 4 ft. pry bar and pop it off, damaging as much as I can :fool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'll probably just take the good ol'e 4 ft. pry bar and pop it off, damaging as much as I can :fool: If you do that, you'll destroy the backing plate. I suggest you take another try at turning the star adjuster all the way in. Even if there's a lip from wear, the drum had to go on over the shoes. I've never seen a lip so bad that the drum won't come right off once the star wheel is cranked all the way in. Are there parking brake cables attached to this axle? If so, cut them off as close to the baclkng plate as you cen get. They could be frozen in the extended position and that could be what's holding the shoes out against the drum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxRacing282 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 pull on one side of the drum and take your dead blow to the other. go back and forth. if that does not work. cut the hold down pins from the back out so everything else comes out. if that does not work. take a slide hammer with a hook and have at her, walking it back and forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edman2007 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 umm... you mean the rusty pins that fell out as soon as I hit the drum? :roll: Yeah, everything is coming with it, I am just trying not to damage the pump (or whatever is in there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 The only hydraulic part in there is a double ended piston called a wheel cylinder. And they are not very expensive. Cheaper than shoes or drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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