"97+ Clip"...

[Catatonic Comanche]

Yes, I know that it means parting out the front of a 97+ Cherokee and stacking it on to the frame of a Comanche, but someone PLEASE describe in detail the new parts that exchange the old!

 

From what I have seen, it appears that the grill, fenders and hood are exchanged. Is that it or are more/less parts involved?

 

I greatly appreciate the input of those who have pioneered the info...

 

V/R

 

Paul

[Eagle]

To do it right, you need not only the grille but also the header (the front panel that the grille mounts in), complete with side lights and headlight buckets. You also need the 97+ bumper and splash apron. You will need the 97+ front flares, but you do NOT need the hood -- the hood didn't change.

[Sir Sam]

Yes, I know that it means parting out the front of a 97+ Cherokee and stacking it on to the frame of a Comanche, but someone PLEASE describe in detail the new parts that exchange the old!

 

From what I have seen, it appears that the grill, fenders and hood are exchanged. Is that it or are more/less parts involved?

 

I greatly appreciate the input of those who have pioneered the info...

 

V/R

 

Paul

 

For you you will need the following.

 

Fender x 2

 

Header panel

 

fender flares x 2

 

Bumper end caps x2

 

Bumper

 

Bumper brackets x2

 

Headlight bezels x2

 

park lamp x2

 

marker lamp x2

 

grill

 

In addition you will need to other find used or dealer source the antenna assembly, its different, but will plug into the MJ antenna line.

 

the hood does not need to be changed, nor does any of the body, there is a bracket which attaches the fender to the headlight bucket, but it is not necessary, and can be bought cheaply at the dealer.

[lostissues]

Yes, I know that it means parting out the front of a 97+ Cherokee and stacking it on to the frame of a Comanche, but someone PLEASE describe in detail the new parts that exchange the old!

 

From what I have seen, it appears that the grill, fenders and hood are exchanged. Is that it or are more/less parts involved?

 

I greatly appreciate the input of those who have pioneered the info...

 

V/R

 

Paul

 

For you you will need the following.

 

Fender x 2

 

Header panel

 

fender flares x 2

 

Bumper end caps x2

 

Bumper

 

Bumper brackets x2

 

Headlight bezels x2

 

park lamp x2

 

marker lamp x2

 

grill

 

In addition you will need to other find used or dealer source the antenna assembly, its different, but will plug into the MJ antenna line.

 

the hood does not need to be changed, nor does any of the body, there is a bracket which attaches the fender to the headlight bucket, but it is not necessary, and can be bought cheaply at the dealer.

 

do you also need the newer fender brackets? towards the front where they mount to the header pannel?

[Sir Sam]

Yes, I know that it means parting out the front of a 97+ Cherokee and stacking it on to the frame of a Comanche, but someone PLEASE describe in detail the new parts that exchange the old!

 

From what I have seen, it appears that the grill, fenders and hood are exchanged. Is that it or are more/less parts involved?

 

I greatly appreciate the input of those who have pioneered the info...

 

V/R

 

Paul

 

For you you will need the following.

 

Fender x 2

 

Header panel

 

fender flares x 2

 

Bumper end caps x2

 

Bumper

 

Bumper brackets x2

 

Headlight bezels x2

 

park lamp x2

 

marker lamp x2

 

grill

 

In addition you will need to other find used or dealer source the antenna assembly, its different, but will plug into the MJ antenna line.

 

the hood does not need to be changed, nor does any of the body, there is a bracket which attaches the fender to the headlight bucket, but it is not necessary, and can be bought cheaply at the dealer.

 

do you also need the newer fender brackets? towards the front where they mount to the header pannel?

 

You don't have to have it, the header mounts to the fender in two places, its about as necessary on the 97+ as it is on the 96-.

[lostissues]

damnit, thats what i get for not reading it carefully :oops:

[mfpdm]

do you also need the newer fender brackets? towards the front where they mount to the header pannel?

 

Yes you do. That is if you are reffering to the bracket that bolts the front of the fender to the firewall in front. I found this out after the fact and had to go back to the jy to get it. Here's a link that may help you out a little. Just remember that you shouldn't have to mod the header unless you putting it on an 86.

 

http://www.comancheclub.com/forums/view ... hp?t=11270

 

:cheers:

[Sir Sam]

do you also need the newer fender brackets? towards the front where they mount to the header pannel?

 

Yes you do. That is if you are reffering to the bracket that bolts the front of the fender to the firewall in front. I found this out after the fact and had to go back to the jy to get it. Here's a link that may help you out a little. Just remember that you shouldn't have to mod the header unless you putting it on an 86.

 

http://www.comancheclub.com/forums/view ... hp?t=11270

 

:cheers:

 

You really don't have to have the fender brackets, with the newer front clip(as on his 92) there are enough other bolts to hold everything together that you can get away with not having it.

 

Now thats not to say that if you can grab em, do it. They are always nice to have. But if you cannot get a set you can live without.

[mfpdm]

You really don't have to have the fender brackets, with the newer front clip(as on his 92) there are enough other bolts to hold everything together that you can get away with not having it.

 

Now thats not to say that if you can grab em, do it. They are always nice to have. But if you cannot get a set you can live without.

 

Just so were on the same sheet of music here, maybe I should have posted this link. Click here

In pic two is the brackets that I think are in question. If you do not use these, the alignment of the front clip with the fenders will be left with just the four bolts that attaches the front clip. Not wise. This would allow the whole front to shift which could cause problems down the road. Those brackets set the fender to header alignment, not just hold the fender on. As for his being a 92 vs the 86, they have the same bolt count for the fenders. The only difference is the firewall/rad support. Thats the only reason I had to mod anything or else it would have been a direct swap. Not trying to mix apples and oranges or step on any toes, its just if your going to do the swap, might as well do it all.

 

:cheers:

[Sir Sam]

You really don't have to have the fender brackets, with the newer front clip(as on his 92) there are enough other bolts to hold everything together that you can get away with not having it.

 

Now thats not to say that if you can grab em, do it. They are always nice to have. But if you cannot get a set you can live without.

 

Just so were on the same sheet of music here, maybe I should have posted this link. Click here

In pic two is the brackets that I think are in question. If you do not use these, the alignment of the front clip with the fenders will be left with just the four bolts that attaches the front clip. Not wise. This would allow the whole front to shift which could cause problems down the road. Those brackets set the fender to header alignment, not just hold the fender on. As for his being a 92 vs the 86, they have the same bolt count for the fenders. The only difference is the firewall/rad support. Thats the only reason I had to mod anything or else it would have been a direct swap. Not trying to mix apples and oranges or step on any toes, its just if your going to do the swap, might as well do it all.

 

:cheers:

 

We are on the same sheet of music so to speak.

 

Yes the fenders have the same number of bolts. However the header has all those bolts along the top of the radiator support that hold the header to the body, then all the two bolts on either side of the header do are pull the fenders into alignment with the header (which you also have to adjust with the brackets).

 

Look I'm not saying you shouldn't use it, but if you don't have it, its not a deal killer. Heck for as easy as it is to take the header off you could put it on without those brackets, order them online, and then weeks or even months later pull the header back off and put it back on with those.

 

All those bolts along the upper radiator support are what really hold the header in, with those bolts, and with the 4 into the fenders, the header is attached securely, and won't shift.

[mfpdm]

All those bolts along the upper radiator support are what really hold the header in, with those bolts, and with the 4 into the fenders, the header is attached securely, and won't shift.

 

Doh.

 

I forgot about those. That was the other difference in the 86, which I still need to address on mine.

Darn getting old thing and forgetting stuff. :headpop:

 

:cheers:

[Sir Sam]

All those bolts along the upper radiator support are what really hold the header in, with those bolts, and with the 4 into the fenders, the header is attached securely, and won't shift.

 

Doh.

 

I forgot about those. That was the other difference in the 86, which I still need to address on mine.

Darn getting old thing and forgetting stuff. :headpop:

 

:cheers:

 

I figured you were, which is why I pointed that out, and why I said on his 92.

 

Really, the best bet in your case is to drill out the 3 spot welds on either side, weld in new front corners, and put in the newer upper radiator support, then get mounting brackets for the 4cyl radiator and call it a day.