88swampedmj Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 well i currently don't have any blinkers...and i think my stop lights are on all the time...when i pull the light switch out it should turn on the driving lights..then one more pull turns on the headlights...well i pull once...no driving lights..but the tail lights come on (really bright) if i push the brake petal the stop lights won't come on.. and no blinkers!! i checked the bulbs they all look ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I will say its one of two things. 1) a bad headlight switch 2) AND /OR a badly pinched wire loom. You have to begin tracing. A couple questions. Did this just start happening, or was it this way forever? If it just started, what have you recently done. Been wheeling? Someone else use the vehicle? Has it been hit/ in fender bender? There are a set of major wires, running around/behind the grill on the drivers side behind the bumper/brill. A good hit there can pinch/cut the harness there resulting in what you are evperiencing. If no to any accident, I would get yourself a new headlight switch. These can be a bugger to change. There is a little button on the top that must be depressses to remove the center pin. Allowing you to remove the bpdy of the switch from under the dash. If you haven't done this. I would recomend your aquireing the new switch before attempting removal of the old. That way you can see how the switch comes apart, before hand, once you reach in to remove switch, you have to feel your way, there is no room to see anything. Good luck, CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepinjeepin Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I was having the same problem and the ground to the blinkers were bad. I would also try that before going through the hassel of changing the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 well i think it was hit before i got it because it had new fenders and all when i got it...so it may be pinched...ill also look at the grounds..where are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepinjeepin Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 what I did was take the blinker apart to expose the bulb. The black wire is the ground. I just cut it and grounded some where better and they worked. Does your blinkers always on, on your dash. I heard that the plugs themself go bad. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I had bad grounds in the sockets up front. The simple test to see if that's it is this: Take the bulb out. Take the gasket off from the socket. Jam a piece of stranded copper wire down that hole on the side. That's the ground part of the socket. once you take it apart you'll see why it's not a great design. Worked the wire back and forth a few times to grind off the corrosion. A liberal application of contact cleaner may also help. it's made so that when there's not bulb in there the ground disconnects, but it's very prone to corrosion. I just left the piece of wire in there and it's been fine for me. just excersise more caustion when working with the front bulb sockets, as they now have a ground even with the bulb removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 oh ok cool ill give it a shot thanks oh but what about my stop lights they just stay on...but when the headlights are off they won't come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepinjeepin Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I had that problem too. The brake switch wasn't getting power. What I did was take the plug from the brake pedel and ran a new power line. That seems to be working for me. I am getting a little moisture around my fuse block cause some other fuses were wet and starting to rust. Let me know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 23, 2006 Author Share Posted April 23, 2006 well i got them to turn on..but i still have no blinkers or brake lights.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Do you have all of the right bulbs? I'd try just buying a couple of packages of new ones... There's no telling what a PO might have done. And make sure all of the bulbs are firmly locked in palce on the tailights. Mine were doing weird things last night because one of the bulbs got loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 i think it may be the stop light switch on the brake petal...because when i pull the light switch once the tail lights come on and the brake lights...thier always on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I had a bulb blow a week or so back. It was one of the tail lights. i took it appart and replaced both bulds with brandy new ones. For the past week the marker light circut would blow the fuse after about ten minutes driving. It was strange, it would barely blow the fuse, I mean barely. Usually when a fuse blows, it burns up half of the visible metal inside. Not mine, it would be a tiny break, just enough to not make contact. I checked and re-checked everything!! I took everything back apart, cleaned and regreased all the sockets. I removed, cut and recrimped the ground leggs and reinstalled in new holes all with die electric grease for good measure. Problem was still there!! I was stumped! Then, during a phone conversation with my dear old dad. He reminded me of something, Just cause its new, dosen't mean its not the problem. Guess what it was...a faulty bulb!!! I couldn't see anything wrong with it...but I went to a different store and bought new bulbs and re-installed them....and wallah...problems GONE!!! You never know!! Good luck, CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 i can't figure out why when i push the petal they won't come on....but when i pull the light switch out once..they come on... i know they are supposed to but they come on BRIGHT so the stop lights and regular lights are coming on when i pull the switch.. plus when i push the lever to turn the turn signals on they don't even come on in the dash..i know the column is good its out of my cherokee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 still stumped... well i think i found that the stop lights don't come on when i pull the light switch out once...the stop lights just don't come on period... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 still stumped...well i think i found that the stop lights don't come on when i pull the light switch out once...the stop lights just don't come on period... I don't understand...the stop lights SHOULD'NT come on when you pull the switch???? Or was this just a typo? :oops: Have you gotten your self a cheap tester w continuity? Have you tested the grounds to see if you have them everywhere? I am still saying the problem is either the pinched wires from the accident or the switch in combonation with a groin==und problem. These things are a PAIN to diaginose and take many hours to track down. Be dilligent and look carefully. If you can't get a meter, get a couple long wires, run them directly to the batt and try to see if the lights will work with these wires as a test. IE you KNOW it will have a good ground this way and you can be positive of that once tested. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 do you know where the grounds are for them..i saw one when i took the drivers side tail light assembly out..is there more?..i did find a pinched wire in the front harness for the driving/turnsignals the lights come on...but still no turn signals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepinjeepin Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 The grounds are the black wires that come off the plug for the blinkers. Have you tried the blinker fuse. It looks like a little can.It' located at your fuse black under the dash. If that has gone bad. There is one for your 4 ways and and blinkers. Does your 4 ways work? You could look in a Haynes manuel. They have wireing diagrams. Yahoo's group has some diagrams too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 29, 2006 Author Share Posted April 29, 2006 i took the blinkers off my cherokee and put them on the fuse box of the comanche..and nothin...i could hear the hazzards clicking but the lights won't come on...i think it is a bad ground somewhere but idk where else to look....is there any under the hood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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