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Freshly built 4.0 with about 30 minutes of run time on it (driveshafts not done yet, so i haven't driven it)

(.030 over pistons, factory compression ratio, 2.5" exhaust)

Fires right up with no issues. 

Initially I tried a larger throttle body but had a very high idle.. I swapped back to the factory throttle body, and while at it replaced the IAC and TPS.

After that, the idle wasn't as high, but it was rough. I replaced the MAP sensor which fixed the rough idle part.

Now the idle is still a bit high, see below video. If I rev it, it slowly returns to the (high) idle. 

Checking if you all have any ideas how to get the idle down. Does vacuum look alright? While it was idling I took a propane torch (not lit) and pointed it at all the vacuum lines I could get to, with no change to the idle.

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forgot to mention...98 XJ conversion into my 89 MJ. Funny thing is when i was driving the XJ, the idle was a little high back then also, but virtually every part of the engine/ignition/fuel system has been either rebuilt or replaced since then. Wondering if once I break it in with some driving if the idle will come down. 

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Vacuum looks a touch low, ideal would be between 16-18" steady idle. Your throttle blip looked normal but slightly low- vacuum drop and then jump to 20 when it snapped closed. Maybe 22-23" snapped closed with MAP reading in the 20s kPa would be closer to normal. Steady idle MAP about 50-55kPa. For what it's worth, if the OBDII system is intact, you can put a scanner/ code reader on it (the kind that costs about $80 or so) that can give you real time parameter readings from at least some of the various PIDs. Look for what the IAC counts and TPS % are, and what the fuel trim or basic AFR is. You'd be looking for a concurrent lean condition with the high idle. If IAC counts look like they're high (closing off additional air), pintle fully extended, you might try closing the throttle blade stop a bit until IAC counts are in the normal range and idle comes down, with either throttle body. And then adjust the TPS if needed to read 0% with throttle closed. Maybe also see what the CTS is reading just for giggles, in case it's skewing fuel trim. Also make sure you don't have any exhaust manifold leaks.

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Thanks for the replies :beerchug:

-I do have a SnapOn scan tool, I didn't think about using that for this issue, so I'll find time to check it this weekend and see what shows up. I also wonder if i have a small vacuum leak somewhere..I'll disconnect a few things and plug them to see what happens.

 

-The throttle return seems strong enough, however after I gave the TB a good cleaning I don't think I lubricated the valve after. Will do that.

 

 

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