thejim42 Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 I bought an 86 xls, 2.5 5 speed 4x4, with an external slave cylinder it supposedly had a new clutch kit in it when I bought it but the clutch didn't disengage when you stepped on the pedal. I pulled the trans out checked everything out made sure the fork was on right, I put on a new slave and master cylinder bled the clutch and the clutch pedal feels like I have no resistance. Can't test it to see if it works because now the truck doesn't start but does anyone have and advice with the clutch?
Jeep Driver Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 My clutch has very little felt resistance. You cannot even get the engine to turn over? If so, turn it over with it in gear and then with the clutch depressed and see if it is indeed releasing.
thejim42 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 It starts one minute then the next I went to start it again and I don't even here a click. I know the battery has a charge and all my lights and gauges come on so idk what the deal is
Benlavigne Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 It starts one minute then the next I went to start it again and I don't even here a click. I know the battery has a charge and all my lights and gauges come on so idk what the deal is
Benlavigne Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 I have and 87if the throwout bearing is not installed correctly it will not work I had to replace my throw out bearing 3 times before it finally started working right
thejim42 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 I know I got the fork on the pins. Just out of curiosity. How high is the clutch pedal supposed to be?
Jeep Driver Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Mine is pretty much even with the brake pedal.....maybe a tad higher.
thejim42 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 Thats where it is with my 88. I think my pedal is bent...my clutch it half the height of my brake pedal
thejim42 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 is it possible that it has the wrong clutch kit? the guy before me put it in, and the guy before him bought the kit. i have the part number of the kit that is in the truck but i can't find any info on it online. tredex automotive am-020 is the clutch that is in it.
thejim42 Posted June 25, 2014 Author Posted June 25, 2014 The clutch won't disengage if its installed backwards will it?
thejim42 Posted June 26, 2014 Author Posted June 26, 2014 Is there supposed to be a keeper on this clutch fork?
dasbulliwagen Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 I ran into this when I did mine. I swapped in an 86 2.8 trans to my 87. I didnt notice at first but the new slave cyl didnt have the pointed plastc end on the rod. This lengthens the rod a bit and without it you won't get full disengagement. I swapped the plastic end onto the new slave rod and all was good. Check this before you pull it all apart.
Mountain Dude Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 The 86 has a poor design layout for the hard line out of the master cylinder. It sits higher than the master cylinder and is far too long at this height. This allows air to be trapped in the high spot. I had to pressure bleed the line from the slave cylinder up to the master to get mine to work. This had to be done with the slave removed and the plunger held in as far as it would go in order to get all (or most of) the air out of the system.
thejim42 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Posted June 29, 2014 Well ive bled it according to the book, removing the slave and keeping it pushed in while bleeding it. I feel like I'm stepping on a brick wall and the clutch still doesnt disengage...what am I missing? Could be the pressure plate or wrong clutch kit? I'm at a loss.
Mountain Dude Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 I used a brake bleeder kit like this http://www.diseno-art.com/products/tools/brake_bleed_kit.html and very slight air pressure from my compressor to push the fluid up through the system.
thejim42 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Posted June 30, 2014 Is it a different clutch kit for an internal slave cylinder than external?
dasbulliwagen Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Not that I know of. I started out with an internal kit but found that the clutch and pressure plate are the same part numbers between the two just the throwout is different. Maybe you put the disc in backwards?
thejim42 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Posted July 15, 2014 Okay so I bought a new clutch kit and there was a clear difference in the clutch and pressure plate. I got everything all swapped over and now the pedal doesn't feel like a brick but now I have like no back pressure and the clutch still doesn't disengage
thejim42 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Posted July 17, 2014 Does anyone know what this fork is supposed to look like. The one I see online that is supposed to be for my truck looks nothing like what I have. Anyone have a part number or anything that might help me find the right fork for this thing?
thejim42 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Posted July 20, 2014 Anyone know the part number for the fork I am supposed to have?
thejim42 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Posted July 27, 2014 Is there supposed to be a keeper on the fork?
thejim42 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 Anyone have any helpful advice or pictures or anything?
Jeep Driver Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 I think you are the one that should post pics of what you are dealing with so others can see what you see.
thejim42 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 I just don't want to pull this thing apart again if I don't have to...
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