Alexia Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I currently have four XJ gauge clusters up for sale for 1997-2001 XJ models. All clusters have been tested for functionality, that all existing* bulbs work, and are cleaned. I will program the requested** mileage and VIN into the cluster to match your Jeep. I can only program even numbered mileage. It you request an odd numbered mileage I will round down. *Note: If there was never a bulb in an empty spot I can not test or replace it. If you are sending your cluster back in exchange(see below) please swap over only the missing bulbs that you need. **Note: I will not assist in facilitating odometer fraud. Q: What clusters will work with my XJ model year? A: 1997 to 1998.4 needs 1997 gauge clusters. Some 1998 models require a 1997 cluster, but otherwise 1998.5-2001 clusters are the same. Q: How can I tell which cluster I need? A: 1997 gauge clusters do not have the Lift Gate Ajar symbol under the tachometer and say "Check Engine" under the speedometer instead of the symbol for check engine. 1997 clusters also say "SECURITY" in place of the Sentry Key Immobilizer symbol. Q: Can I switch to a cluster from before/after the 1998 year split? A: Yes, but a few wires must be spliced in the harness to accomplish this. Q: Can I swap from a dumb gauge cluster to a full gauge cluster? A: Yes, it is a simple plug and play swap. 1997+ XJ models should already have the proper sensors. All clusters are $100 shipped to the contiguous 48 United States. Please contact me for shipping quotes to other locations. 2000 XJ Full Cluster #1 Lens, A condition, typical swirl marks from cleaning. Needles, B condition, orange, uneven fading. http://i.imgur.com/VCp3uam.jpg 2001 XJ Full Cluster #3 Lens, B condition, heavier scratches visible in direct light, broken tab. Needles, A condition, orange, fading, but consistent. http://i.imgur.com/ZPtPz6w.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1hWd0wi.jpg 1997 XJ Full Cluster #4 Lens, B condition, couple nicks that are hard to see straight on. Needles, A condition, white needles. http://i.imgur.com/SR0UHAi.jpg Cluster Exchange/Cores: I will pay/give a refund of $30 for working clusters with at minimum good B condition lenses. $10 for defective clusters with A condition lens and plastic.(Either broken gauge, burnt odometer, or otherwise does not work.) Some burnt out bulbs are fine. If I get a cluster missing the required bulb sockets and not just burnt out bulbs in their sockets I will not give a refund for that cluster. Those bulb sockets are not cheap to replace. Bounties on clusters and parts I need for testing: I need a Canadian KPH and 120 MPH police package clusters to compare data from them. If you have one of these in working condition I will gladly trade a reprogrammed full cluster for one. Payment: I accept PayPal electronic funds transfer.(Sorry, no credit cards.) I will also accept cash in person if you are local. Delivery: FedEx, UPS, or USPS - I will mail UPS if you do not have a preference. I will ship to Canada, but you are responsible for custom/border fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I just picked up a '96 PD cluster just to flip... Don't know if you were looking for an older one. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 I just picked up a '96 PD cluster just to flip... Don't know if you were looking for an older one. Rob Nah, I am just looking for the newer 1997+. I am attempting to figure out how the clusters are designed for different speedometer scales whether it is different hardware or a bit of software programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I know where there is a '97+ PD XJ, as I did work to it, but I think I would have some trouble convincing the teenage daughter and her cougar mother to let me borrow the cluster. If you get desperate, let me know. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Well... I went to the junkyard today... Met a friend I hadn't seen in awhile... :( Used to see a white XJ with an A pillar spot light every day on my way to work and on the way home, going the other direction. I always assumed that it was a Police Spec and just got a chuckle out of the timing of it all. Every day, like seeing a friend. It belonged to a nursery in the town I lived in, and he must of lived in the town where I worked. I hadn't seen it in awhile, but I attributed that to the short days and dark commute... I took my weekly stroll today and there it was. I cried a bit inside... But, life must go on. That brings me back here. Guess what? It was a PD XJ: I grabbed the cluster, the switch panel with the EXT IDLE switch, auxiliary trans cooler for myself, and then the header panel for a friend. This one is unique, and must be some what rare. I have seen a mere few PD XJ's, but don't recall ever seeing the 'Full' cluster. The other one I talked about in the thread was just an idiot light cluster, if I remember correct. I'd happily send it your way so you can play with it, but really want to put it in my '97 XJ. (If it will work, out of a '98). I see your break down for the year split, but this one seems a bit off from your description. It has the lift gate symbol, as well as the crossed out key instead of 'Security', but has the 'CHECK ENGINE' instead of the graphic. Alexia, how much would you charge to re-do the mileage to reflect my current mileage, and give it a once over? Maybe see if you could put a nice set of non-faded needles on it? PM me if you would rather not discuss open forum. Doesn't matter to me. Rob :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 This is sitting on my desk as of this week. :D We both have a 1998 bastard year police cluster with 1999-2001 electronics. You can confirm this by looking at the back. 1999-2001 should have white connectors instead of black. This can be double checked with a multimeter by checking for a connection between ground on pin #6 on C1 and pin #9 on C2. The plastic case back has the pin assignments on it along with CN-A for C1 and CN-B for C2. If you are adventurous some translucent model paint from Testers could be applied over top. The only reason I would risk removing the needles from a rare 120 MPH cluster would be to replace a faulty motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Well son of a... So what all is involved in the wiring to get the later to work in place of the first? Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Well son of a... So what all is involved in the wiring to get the later to work in place of the first? Rob Swapping a few wires around. Putting a 1999-2001 style in a 1997 will lose the factory security light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Well that's not hard at all... Too bad they weren't on the same connectors so you could just swap pins without having to add wire. Now I'm excited. Rob :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 -Not that I expect to ever need to push the limits of the 125 MPH speedo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Well that's not hard at all... Too bad they weren't on the same connectors so you could just swap pins without having to add wire. Now I'm excited. Rob :D Yep! The #2 ground wire was moved to the second connector as part of correcting the issue with gauge clusters losing connection. -Not that I expect to ever need to push the limits of the 125 MPH speedo... My MJ has been up to 90 MPH. The rear end floats too much and which I believe is due to worn spring bushings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockfrog Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I was always under the assumption the odometer mileage reading was stored in the PCM? I've clocked 180kph in my XJ a few years back .... about 110mph -ish ... not something I care to repeat. She got real twitchy at thay speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 I was always under the assumption the odometer mileage reading was stored in the PCM? I've clocked 180kph in my XJ a few years back .... about 110mph -ish ... not something I care to repeat. She got real twitchy at thay speed. It is stored in the PCM and gauge cluster. In a 1997-2001 XJ they do not communicate this to each other. It is not uncommon to plug in a Chrysler scan tool and see them be a few miles off from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I would like to buy a cluster from you for a 1997 jeep xj please email me back at sparkyreyn@ yahoo. Com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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