AeroNautical Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I've googled the hell out of this. Someone told me it might work, but I need a definite answer. Will the mounting bracket from an AW4 tranny work with an ax15? I know the cross member won't, but the brackets do look very similar. I have this and a driveshaft needed for my pukey to ax15 swap, so I'm a bit anxious to find these parts, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRF136N Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Not sure exactly what bracket you are referring to but when I did the aw4 to ax-15 swap in my '96 xj all the crossmember stuff worked fine as I only had the bare trans to work with and no extra brackets or anything; the only bracket that didnt swap was the 4x4 linkage bracket for the 4wd shifter...but then again thats in an xj but I can't imagine the mj would be any different cause the motor is in the same spot and the tranny is bolted right to the motor.?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 If you mean the transmission mount, yes, same-o mount for both transmissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 So, everything except the cross member works? Outstanding, I appreciate the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 Alright, this is confusing the hell out of me. This is probably something so straight forward, but I'm just not getting. Went to the jy today and looked at some aw4 trannys. This is what I found: On the aw4: The bottom of my ax15: The bracket I was told to look for: It looks like this would work: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Wrangler-YJ-1987-1995-AX-15-AX15-TRANSMISSION-MOUNT-no-defects-/130920373737?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_100&hash=item1e7b765de9&vxp=mtr I encourage you guys to be harsh, but I've been told so much contradicting information that I NEED a straight answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRF136N Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Ok, so looking at the bottom of my jeep there are three sets of pre drilled holes for the cross member, allowing it to be slid front or back depending on the tranny mount you have I suppose...perhaps thats why you were led to believe the cross member would not work and mine from the aw4 worked just fine with the ax-15 because I used the exact same tranny mount between both trannies. It looks like the one you have from the junkyard would more or less drop straight down for the cross member in the front position, and the secon one places the cross member in the further back posiion. Sounds stupid and I could be completely wrong on this but thats what I am seeing. I remember having to move my tranny crosmember to the other position once on a past jeep and had to tap out the threads...don't remember why but I think it was going from a ba/10 to an aw4. Maybe someone else can chime in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CRF136N Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I will also update tonight when I get home casue I have 3 jeeps with each tranny type: An '87 xj with the aw4 An '89 mj with the ba10 And the '96 xj that had the aw4 and now has the ax-15 withthe same bracket so I will tell you the tranny and bracket associated with each one to see if this helps any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Part 25 is exactly what I need. Are there any transmission that use that part other than the ax15? CRF136N: if it's not too much trouble, I'd love to take a look at how you did the conversion. The cross member isn't an issue, I'm just using the one my pukey uses, but with a 3/4inch t-case drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRF136N Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Ok, sorry for the delay; bossman has me workin a really stupid shift. Anyway lets see if I can confuse you here...and to make it worse my phone is being stupid so I can't upload any pics. -my '96 xj that had the aw4 and now has the ax-15 has the stepdown bracket you have pictured bolted on the trans with the cross member in the rear position...probably the setup you need. -my '89 mj with the ba10 has the straight down bracket with the cross member in the foreward position. -my '87 xj with the aw4 has the straight down bracket with the cross member in the rear position. As far as details on the swap there was really nothing special as I dropped the one tranny and bolted the other one in after swappig flywheels and a new clutch kit; I had to use the 242 t case cause the ax-15 is 1.5" shorter than the aw4 (and the 231 t case is shorter than the 242) so it was the only way I could get the driveshaft to bolt up temporarily but I'm working on the SYE in my 231 for a custom driveshaft now. Only thing I had to make sure of there was making sure the spline count between the ax-15 and 231 t case were the same cause the newer ones have more splines. Otherwise everything else was just a matter of the auto to manual swap which you won't have to really deal with like removing the auto shifter plate on the floor, cutting the firewall for the clutch slave and bypassing the neutral safety switch from the auto tranny. I suppose the only other bit of adivise I would have is bleeding the ax-15 external slave...perhaps this is elementary but it sure messed me up; I ruined two jy slaves trying to figure it out...there is a place for a bleeder screw on the plastic housing but no bleeder screw and its plastic welded shut where it would go; so I bought a new slave which came with two plastic straps holding the slave shaft 'in'...just not thinking as if were to minimize package size like they do with shocks I cut them and it took nearly 300 miles of stop and go driving before that clutch hydraulic line finally bled 100%...then it occured to me the plastic straps should have been left alone & installed 'as is' and as the pressure in the line built up and the thing self bled I bet it would have just broke the straps resulting in perfect bleed the first time...duh. Oh well haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Part 25 is exactly what I need. Are there any transmission that use that part other than the ax15? No, 89-95 AX15 MJ/XJ models only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynoMJ Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Does anyone have a picture of an AX-15 mount in there Comanche so we know what we are missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue88Comanche Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I think this is what you are asking for. this is the mounting plate that is attached directly to the rubber transmission mount, that is then connected to the cross member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 That looks very similar to this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Wrangler-YJ-1987-1995-AX-15-AX15-TRANSMISSION-MOUNT-no-defects-/130920373737?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_100&hash=item1e7b765de9&vxp=mtr I almost think the seller on ebay labeled it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue88Comanche Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 maybe someone can chime in in that mounting plate.. It should bolt up to the tranny no problem, its the rubber transmission mount / cross member i am not sure about. EDIT: here is the pic from his ebay seller: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 I appreciate you posting that picture. Just wanna bump this up again to see if it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 No, it won't for those of you wondering. This is the biggest pain in the rear trying to find this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 What's different about it? It looks right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 Those 2 holes where the mount goes are quite a bit narrower than the correct bracket, and don't go out as far. I studied it a bit to see if I could modify the mount (drill holes closer together), but the rubber cushion is in the way, and have no way of measuring exactly where the holes need to be until the tranny is IN the truck, which is a bad situation to be in if it really won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynoMJ Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Which piece did you end up getting? I'm still trying to figure out which mounts i need for what. I currently have a clayton crossmember set up for an ax-15 I just don't know which mount I will need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue88Comanche Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I had the same problem finding mine... I ended up finding a MOPAR wholesale place online that had it. normally I stay away from those places but when I called they actually had someone answer by the 3rd ring, and it was an American, who was actually helpful. I think shipped it was about $100 total, the rubber part was seperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 Which piece did you end up getting? I'm still trying to figure out which mounts i need for what. I currently have a clayton crossmember set up for an ax-15 I just don't know which mount I will need. I took a chance with the TJ bracket pictures above. The pictures that Blue88Comanche posted up top is the bracket you and I need. Any chance you remember the website for that mopar wholesaler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue88Comanche Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Which piece did you end up getting? I'm still trying to figure out which mounts i need for what. I currently have a clayton crossmember set up for an ax-15 I just don't know which mount I will need. I took a chance with the TJ bracket pictures above. The pictures that Blue88Comanche posted up top is the bracket you and I need. Any chance you remember the website for that mopar wholesaler? I don't remember them, I have tried for months to find them again.. I have also searched all 4 of my email accounts for the order and can't seem to find it anywhere. the problem is there are a ton of other websites that where set up almost identical to the one I used. I am pretty sure they where based out of florida however. but its been about 3 or so years, sense I bought that part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautical Posted July 4, 2013 Author Share Posted July 4, 2013 I searched the part number and this place actually had it: http://www.mopar-parts-dealer.com/parts.htm I was very surprised, however I'm still having trouble finding the tranny side t-case shifter linkage bracket. Anyone have a part number for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue88Comanche Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I'm still having trouble finding the tranny side t-case shifter linkage bracket. Anyone have a part number for it? when i spoke with the Jeep parts department, they said it was not available anymore ant they could not get it... so 3rd party suppliers might have them, but you might only be able to find it in a junk yard. I am still looking for the same part.. I have been looking at the Novak shift cable http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/shifters/sk2xc.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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