kawaboy13 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Is there an after market clean bumper that will bolt up with leaving on my flares and under trim? My front bumper is beat up and would like to replace it with something heavier that I can put larger off road lights on and possibly d-rings. I already have factory tow hooks also. What will bolt up to the factory bumper brackets and if not can somebody point me in the right direction? I don't need a winch or stinger bumper either. Looking in the $250-$400 range. These are three that I've kept my eye on. Any input? http://www.jcroffroad.com/mm5/merchant. ... ode=XJ-F-B http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/index. ... lerpnkt8u0 http://www.jeepbumpers.com/product_info ... s_id/23321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseMJ Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 My opinion only: The first one is just not my style, but probably the best off road type bumper. Looks like it would give you more clearance over obstacles. The second on protects the front corners better and the d-rings offer more versatility - it'd be my choice. The third one, I had the same type of bumper on my old XJ. Looks good, but I'd bet that the mounts are not "through" welded. They're just welded at the inside corners of the bumper. They're durable enough, have room for mounting lights and look better than stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaboy13 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 Do any of them not require fender trim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motion Offroad Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Can speak for the C4x4 and the Warrior as we have experience with both of them on our own rigs here. Both will require that you at least trim the flare. You can mount them both without having to trim the fender if you don't want to, but it's a tight fit for the fender behind the ends. The Warrior one could probably be made to fit without trimming anything, but it'll be awful close. As mentioned the Warrior one is not very strong, and I wouldn't recommend using it for any recovery. We've always recommended to customers who are set on that bumper to pair it with a set of C4x4 Towhooks/Brackets as that is in our opinion the best solution for recovery with that bumper. The C4x4 bumper is plenty strong for recovery. Here is an older photo of Rebecca's XJ with the Warrior bumper paired with the C4x4 Towhooks. This is the best sideview I could find for you to give you an idea of how far it wraps around. She's trimmed, but you can get the idea of where the flare would fall if it wasn't trimmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejndssn Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 here is one on the xj and he made one for the rear of his MJ this guy has some skills :brows: http://www.comancheclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33558 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseMJ Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 This the one I have on the MJ. I got it off e-bay 3 years ago for $250. I see them listed now and then but they're $425 now. Free shipping. The bumper bracket bolts strait up to the rails in the same holes as the tow hooks. They wrap around the corners right up to the edge of the flares, no caps needed, all steel. Don't have to cut anything. Not as beefy as I'd like and you'd have to modify it with some welding to add d-rings. There are a few different types, search "jeep xj bumper". Still deciding on light covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaboy13 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 Wow that bumper looks really good Paradise MJ. And you can leave the under trim and tow hooks on? I could not find it on ebay though. But that's what I'm looking for. How tough is the bumper compared to stock? I wouldn't modify it if I can still pull off of the factory hooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motion Offroad Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Wow that bumper looks really good Paradise MJ. And you can leave the under trim and tow hooks on? I could not find it on ebay though. But that's what I'm looking for. How tough is the bumper compared to stock? I wouldn't modify it if I can still pull off of the factory hooks. His bumper is the Warrior Products one. They are not very strong at all. I have a customer-return on my MJ and came down on it on a rock crawling and it dented/twisted it really easy. I'd honestly compare them to stock-strength; just with better lines. If it's just for looks and you plan on using factory/aftermarket tow-hooks it's not a bad option; just don't expect it to holdup offroading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyboy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I could build you one like that,but with better mounts,recovery points and some extra beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaboy13 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 I have not seen a warrior products bumper that would go on with all the factory trim and direct bolt. I'm looking for looks and I don't crawl my truck. My stock bumper is ratio and crooked and I'm just wanting stock look but with more room for lights. Anyone know good offload light that will go on that bumper. Also, I'm wanting to upgrade my headlights to hid's. Is there a full kit I can order for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseMJ Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 His bumper is the Warrior Products one. They are not very strong at all. I have a customer-return on my MJ and came down on it on a rock crawling and it dented/twisted it really easy. I'd honestly compare them to stock-strength; just with better lines. If it's just for looks and you plan on using factory/aftermarket tow-hooks it's not a bad option; just don't expect it to holdup offroading. I know it's not the strongest, and I don't particularly like the welds at the mounts. There is plenty of room for lights and standing on. I try not to hit things. It IS much beefier than the stock bumper...which isn't saying much. A good rock would probably mangle it, I just don't like the look of the "off road" bumpers. If I was going that way I'd just get some 3/8" thick rectangular tube stock and bolt it on. I also won't likely spend $400 on a bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaboy13 Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 So this is the warrior products bumper I can buy off of any site or is this a special one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motion Offroad Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 So this is the warrior products bumper I can buy off of any site or is this a special one? All WP bumpers are the same for the XJ/MJ. WAR560 - Standard no d-ring tabs WAR561 - Standard w/d-ring tabs WAR56050 - Standard no d-ring tabs w/Grill Guard WAR56051 - Standard w/d-ring tabs w/Grill Guard WAR564 - Winch w/d-ring tabs WAR56054 - Winch w/d-ring tabs w/Grill Guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaboy13 Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 None will require trim removal? Will they all kibe up well and bolt into factory mounting brackets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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