Another Idle ?

[kawaboy13]

I changed my IAC about two months ago. Seemed to help out a bit. I fixed a couple vac leaks and it was running good for a while. When you cranked it, it would crank and hit 1700 rpm or so and go right back down to about 600 like any other car an I felt that was normal. Yesterday, I go to crank it and it turned over and barely cranked. Started and did not go up to that 1700 rpm mark. It went to about 300 rpms when it cranked and then up to 600. It felt like it barely wanted to run. It has done that every crank until this evening it started idling about 1500 after the crank and will not go down. I can't figure out why it just started acting up. It's definitely not starting or running right? Any help on the possible sensor or what I should check? :doh: Thanks, JP

[cruiser54]

Year and engine?

[ride172]

Clean the IAC again. I have to clean mine every couple months or it likes to idle high. I bet the op has a Renix too.

[cruiser54]

Clean the IAC again. I have to clean mine every couple months or it likes to idle high. I bet the op has a Renix too.

 

If it's a Renix, good possibility the TPS is bad then.

[kawaboy13]

1987 4.0

[ride172]

Clean the IAC again. I have to clean mine every couple months or it likes to idle high. I bet the op has a Renix too.

 

If it's a Renix, good possibility the TPS is bad then.

 

I ruled the TPS out long ago with a replacement.

 

To the OP my IAC gets gummed up and cleaning it works for me. It doesn't even look that dirty but it is a constant maintenance item on my mj.

[cruiser54]

OP, you have the classic symptoms of a failed/failing TPS.

 

I'm including the adjustment/test procedure for the TPS along with the something else that needs to be addressed on all 1987s and 1988s.

 

You also have a connector in your harness which carries a bunch of signals between the sensors and the ECU. Resistance in that connector can give the ECU false info. The connector needs to be cleaned out.

 

Renix Jeep C101 Connector Refreshing

 

 

The C101 connector on 1987 and 1988 Renix Jeeps was a source of electrical resistance when the vehicles were new. So much so that the factory eliminated this connector in the 1989 and 1990 models. The factory recommended cleaning this connector to insure the proper voltage and ground signals between the ECU and the fuel injection sensors. We can only imagine how this connector has become a larger source of voltage loss and increased resistance over a period of almost 25 years. The C101 connector needs to be cleaned at least once in the lifetime of your vehicle. Chances are it’s never been done before.

 

Almost every critical signal between the engine sensors, injectors, and the ECU travel the path through the C101.

 

The C101 is located on the driver’s side firewall above and behind the brake booster. It is held together with a single bolt in it’s center. To get the connectors apart, simply remove the bolt and pull the halves apart. You will find the connector is packed with a black tar like substance which has hardened over time.

Take a pocket screwdriver or the like and scrape out all the tar crap you can. Follow up by spraying out both connector halves with brake cleaner and then swabbing out the remainder of the tar. Repeat this procedure until the tar is totally removed. This may require 3 or more repetitions. Wipe out the connectors after spraying with a soft cloth.

 

If you have a small pick or dental tool tweak the female connectors on the one side so they grab the pins on the opposite side a bit tighter. Apply a true dielectric grease, not the stuff that came with your brake pads, to the connection and bolt it back together.

 

 

RENIX TPS ADJUSTMENT

 

Before attempting to adjust your TPS be sure the throttle body has been recently cleaned.

It's especially important that the edges of the throttle butterfly are free of any carbon build-up.

 

IMPORTANT NOTE: Using the positive (red) lead of your ohmmeter, probe the B terminal of the flat 3 wire connector

of the TPS . The letters are embossed on the connector itself.

Touch the black lead of your meter to the negative battery post.

If you see more than 1 ohm of resistance some modifications to the sensor ground harness will be

necessary. The harness repair must be performed before proceeding.

I can provide an instruction sheet for that if needed.

 

MANUAL TRANSMISSION:

 

RENIX manual transmission equipped XJs have a three-wire TPS mounted on the throttle body.

This manual transmission vehicle TPS provides data input to the ECU. The manual transmission

TPS has three wires in the connector and they're clearly embossed with the letters A,B, and C.

 

Wire "A" is positive.

Wire "B" is ground.

 

Key ON, measure voltage from "A" positive to "B" ground by back-probing the connectors..

Note the voltage reading--this is your REFERENCE voltage.

 

Key ON, back-probe the connector at wires "B" and "C". Measure the voltage. This is your

OUTPUT voltage.

Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be seventeen percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For

example: 4.82 volts X .17=.82 volts. Adjust the TPS until you have achieved this percentage. If

you can't achieve the correct output voltage replace the TPS and start over.

 

AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:

 

RENIX automatic transmission equipped XJs have a TPS with two connectors. There is a flat three-

wire connector, same as the manual transmission vehicles have, and it is tested the same as the

manual transmission equipped vehicles--FOR ENGINE MANAGEMENT RELATED ISSUES.

 

However, the automatic TPS also has a square four-wire connector clearly embossed with the letters

A,B,C, and D. It only uses three wires and provides information to the Transmission Control Module.

 

Key ON, measure voltage between "A" positive and "D" ground. Note the voltage. This is your

REFERENCE voltage.

 

Back-probe the connector at wires "B" and "D". Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT

voltage. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be eighty-three percent of your REFERENCE voltage.

For example 4.8 volts X .83=3.98 volts. Adjust the TPS until you have achieved this percentage.

If you can't, replace the TPS and start over.

 

So, if you have an automatic equipped XJ your TPS has two sides--one side feeds the ECU, and

the other side feeds the TCU. If you have TRANSMISSION issues check the four-wire

connector side of the TPS. If you have ENGINE issues check the three-wire connector side of

the TPS.

 

For those with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION--the TPS for the manual transmission XJs is

stupid expensive. You can substitute the automatic transmission TPS which is reasonably priced.

 

Revised 11-28-2011

 

Revised 11-29-2011