GirsMJ86 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 first off, how well do they fit? how hard are they to make fit? what all does it take? i want to do this because both windows on my 91 are shot and do not want to roll up or down very well. and i would like to get rid of the triangle windows and switch to the full windows. and i believe this would be easier then swapping windows. i am not real concerned about the interior panels not matching, just so long as they are gray. and i do not want power options either. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=72594 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 thanks ferok. now all i got to do is find some cheap non-power doors with the interior panels in gray and it will work. color won't matter much either since i might be doing spray paint truck again . Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 And lose that nice glossy paint? You're crazy. What's the reasoning to not go with power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 And lose that nice glossy paint? You're crazy. What's the reasoning to not go with power? oh and the paint is not that nice up close. it was a cheapo macco job. i am not sure yet on paint. i think i am going to go with black spray paint and pot some por-15 ultra shine clear coat on it. this way the truck is shiny and chip proof. plus it will have that sweet flat black grayish color. and the reason i do not want power is several. 1: i don't feel like messing with wires. 2: i don't want to pay more for parts if something goes wrong (which is more likely to happen with power) 3: i mud run and ford water too much to mess with more wires in the door to water proof then just the speakers. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I didn't read the linked article. Did it mention the fact that the door strikes don't line up vertically, and that surgery will be required to make the doors latch? It can be done, but this is not a bolt-in swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 The only thing the person in the article mentioned was putting on the newer door strikers, but nothing else. Not saying that's the only thing to do. Never done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I didn't read the linked article. Did it mention the fact that the door strikes don't line up vertically, and that surgery will be required to make the doors latch? It can be done, but this is not a bolt-in swap. that's kejtars writeup, he showed using the top nut to mount the 97 striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I remember reading his write-up awhile ago. He sort of glosses over the problem. It's not as simple as changing from the post type strike in the MJs to the loop style in the newer XJs. The location of the strike in the door is physically higher in the new doors. Anything can be done. The questions are: how much effort do you want to throw at it, and do you want it to be done "right" or just hacked together? I consider Remi's (Kejtar's) to be closer to hacked than "right." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 as long as i can rig them up so they close tight, then idc if they are hacked together or done correctly. and it is easier then swapping to the solid windows anyways. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 as long as i can rig them up so they close tight, then idc if they are hacked together or done correctly. and it is easier then swapping to the solid windows anyways. Alex Alex, it very definitely is not as easy as just swapping the wing vents for fixed units. That's about 10 or 15 minutes per side. Maybe half an hour for the first side since you probably haven't been inside the doors before. You are looking at a LOT more time and effort to physically swap over the entire door, plus Mickey Mouse the latch. It's a nice swap, I guess, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're choosing the easier route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 well my 86 had fixed units that i swapped over to vents, then my 91 had vents that i just got done swapping over to the fixed units the other day. took maybe 10 minutes total both times. but both my windows are messed up really bad in the 91. the driver one won't go down all the way and then won't roll back up. and the passenger side one is starting to act up. and the inside of those doors are so cramped i would much rather do exterior mods to make the strikers line up then internal mods to make the solid glass windows work in the older doors. i have welders and plasma cutters and anything else that i will need to make the strikers line up and look good. with the help of that write up i should be able to improve it. and i will take pictures along the way so we have a more complete write up on our site, like i did for the CAD fix under my 91 project section. rather then just using the bolt to put the newer striker on, i will be welding the newer striker on and cutting the old bolt head off then doing some tack welds or something to hold it. once i get some dry weather i will be looking into the door swap after i put an older 10 slot grille on my 91. mine will be closer to "done correctly" then "hacked" i believe. once i find some complete newer doors i will start the picture taking and write-up process in my project section. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89MJComanche Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 You don't need new doors, you just need new door guts. Just goto a U-Pull it like the one in hazelton PA where they put all kinds of late model XJ's in the yard and get brand new door guts. Hell if you want, get the windows, window trim, interior trim, and power controls and swap it all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbhill Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 so the newer windows bolt in after i swap in the regulators and take the old glass/guts out? hmmmmm interseting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 i want newer doors for more then one reason. i would much rather mod newer ones to work then redo the interior. i hate trying to work on interior stuff of the doors. and like i stated earlier, i don't want power stuff anymore. i have the stuff to put power in now if i wanted, or if anyone else wants to buy the stuff from me. but power is just something else for me to water-proof and more stuff to just go wrong. i am going to grab all new doors, complete with everything but power. down the road i hope to swap over to the newer dash anyways. and there are not many u-pull-it yards around me. and the ones that pull the stuff them self seem to want way too much for parts. it just seems like it would be an easier project (in my eyes anyways) to swap doors. plus if i can get doors cheap enough that are complete minus power then a few bucks difference is not going to matter. my doors now are not the greatest as it is. the driver one won't stay open anymore, the lock is about to fall out, and it leaks a tad because of a small dent at the top. the passenger one is fine but the lock does not match the driver side and the driver side is the one i have the key for. in short, the main reason i am doing this is so i don't have to do interior door work and i am trying to make a show truck so i want nice parts that work good and look good in it. main reason i want a factory rear bumper and i am trying to find a new bed. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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