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I'm ending with this and going to bed.

 

Just because someone is here illegally doesn't make them a bad person. There are some great people here with no citizenship. Too bad we couldn't trade some deadbeats for some top shelf immigrants. That will never happen.

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I'm ending with this and going to bed.

 

Just because someone is here illegally doesn't make them a bad person. There are some great people here with no citizenship. Too bad we couldn't trade some deadbeats for some top shelf immigrants. That will never happen.

 

 

on the contrary. they have done something illegal. our society doesn't accept illegality...save from them.

 

doing something illegal makes you a criminal. plain and simple. this is cut and dry, and there is no room for argument.

 

 

now, if you want to say "we should make it easier for them to get green card, work visa, citizenship, etc." then we can have an argument based on whether or not they are good people. the unfortunate thing is, Mexico doesn't keep a very good criminal record database....so your argument on their personal ethics or capacity for doing good is fairly moot.

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I'm ending with this and going to bed.

 

Just because someone is here illegally doesn't make them a bad person. There are some great people here with no citizenship. Too bad we couldn't trade some deadbeats for some top shelf immigrants. That will never happen.

 

 

on the contrary. they have done something illegal. our society doesn't accept illegality...save from them.

 

doing something illegal makes you a criminal. plain and simple. this is cut and dry, and there is no room for argument

 

There is room for argument. Look how many celebrities break laws all the time, even felonies. Are they treated like criminals? They do worse things than cross a border. It's not just celebrities. Anyone can steal, drink and drive, kill someone, sell drugs and only get a slap on the wrist. If an immigrant is here illegally and breaks no laws except just being here, I don't see them as being criminals.

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I just thought about sex offenders. They are American citizens with rights. Do they deserve to be treated better than an illegal? Hello no. Are they? Yes, most of the time their neighbors don't even know. Those are the people I'd rather see deported. Judge people by their character not by their skin and citizenship.

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Sex offenders are put on a list that is publicly available. If you want to know where they are located what they look like and what they did google it for your area. And no, they have less rights than an illegal. Everything they do is documented. They have restrictions on wheres they can go, and what kind of phones they can have. They can't even see movies without permission before they complete probation.

 

Thats a terrible argument on the subject and proves that you are I'll informed on the matter.

 

A far as celebrities go...you know a well as I that what they do is wrong, and that having money and friends pays off. It's unfortunate but we have no say in the matter.

 

Illegal immigrants, in order to get a job that pays taxes and issues a part check, must steal someones identity. That is a felony and under law is punishable by prison term and fines.

 

The only reasons that illegal immigrants get off ready is that it's not politically correct to even ask if they are here illegally.

 

A police officer pulling over an illegal immigrant can not under the laws written even ask if they are legal. They can ticket or arrest then under the current situation...which just costs us money. Their very presence here is a detriment to our system of government, but liberals refuse to man up and do what needs to be done for the financial future of our country.

 

Now, I would rather give them a green card and get their dna and prints, and send them out to work like the rest of us then deport them. I have no problem with them being here...my problem is that we have no way of holding them accountable for anything...good or bad

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there are some very valid points in this thread... however, until washington grows a spine nothing will happen about it.. BOTH lefties and righties are for illegals, but for different reasons.. hell, it was reagan that granted the first wave of amnesty for them. a lot of people crow on about liberals but seem to have forgotten that. democratic politicians want illegals here so they can feel good about helping the poor unwashed masses (and exploit the cheap labor) and conservative politicians want illegals here to exploit the cheap labor, and they both need to keep the businesses who bought them a seat in congress happy. so a little lip service gets paid to the issue around election time, and illegals will be a problem until we can get some congressmen who won't be bought.. and if you think thats gonna happen any time soon, i got 2 oceanfront lots on mars i'll give you a real good deal on..

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republican here. I want them paid the same. it will give people that are more skilled a fair chance to get a job.

 

I'd also like this whole equal opportunity crap to end. either you're skilled enough to do the job, or you're not. no prerequisites to how many people of various ethnicities must be employed. no potential racial discrimination law suits.

 

 

you are either skilled to do the job, or you're not. minimum wage is minimum wage. fair wage is fair wage. that is what our country needs to do.

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there are some very valid points in this thread... however, until washington grows a spine nothing will happen about it.. BOTH lefties and righties are for illegals, but for different reasons.. hell, it was reagan that granted the first wave of amnesty for them. a lot of people crow on about liberals but seem to have forgotten that. democratic politicians want illegals here so they can feel good about helping the poor unwashed masses (and exploit the cheap labor) and conservative politicians want illegals here to exploit the cheap labor, and they both need to keep the businesses who bought them a seat in congress happy. so a little lip service gets paid to the issue around election time, and illegals will be a problem until we can get some congressmen who won't be bought.. and if you think thats gonna happen any time soon, i got 2 oceanfront lots on mars i'll give you a real good deal on..

 

I concur..

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