A_Town_MJ Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I searched already cldn find to much useful info. So last night i pulled it in the garge to put on my new master cylinder, got that done today and went to start it and it just cranks I know that its getting spark and all wires are hooked up correctly no blown fuses or antyhing like that 90% sure its not getting gas, poured a little in the air intake and nothing, it cranks but thats it. I need this running within the next 4 hours for work.. Fuel pump is deffinately grounded. Any ideas thoughts suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM/78 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Sometimes the injectors get clogged , maybe check the filter . Is the fuel pump working ? Witch one of your trucks is not starting , Renix or the HO ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 HO. when you turn the key you can hear the pump (well I'm failry certain its the pump) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Does the fuel pump prime? Get in it, leave the door open, and just turn the key to 'on', not 'start'. You should hear a whine for a second or two if the fuel pump is priming. Did you unplug any connectors when you changed the master cyliner? (which one did you change?) Another thing you can try is pulling the fuel pump relay out for a few seconds, check the connections, and put it back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 yea when you just turn the key to ON you can hear it start up. I replacfed the clutch master cylinder on the firewall. Didn unplug anythingm well at least not intentionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 You say you know it's getting spark... have you verified that, or just going on that the plugs are hooked up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 pulled each wire one by one, and cranked it..BRIGHT white spark on all six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Pull the plug off the coil, and crank it over a few times. Pull a plug, and see if there's any gas on it. Obviously not a CPS issue. Is your CMPs still plugged in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM/78 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 You should be able to smell gas , if its pumping fuel but not turning over .My truck had a new filter when I bought it , but after quite a few tanks of gas it clogged a new filter . Not sure if there is a way to externally check the injectors . If you can't get it to turn over by spraying gas in it , that sounds like spark . Sometimes it takes a while for it to turn over by spraying fuel in there . That happened on my bike with a bad fuel pump . Took me forever to get it to start , once it did I knew it was the pump . Even then it took a while to purge the pump , after taking the lines off and on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Check the grounds. There's the main battery ground running from the passenger back side of the block, and a secondary ground running from one of the head bolts to the firewall. If those aren't the greatest, it may spark with the plug outside of the head, but not grounding when the plug's in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 its deffinately pumping gas to the fuel rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunl Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Mine was a loose switch at the bottom of the steering column. Turn the key to on, and does the seatbelt buzzer come on? If so, you can rule out the ignition switch. If not, wiggle some wires around under the dash...possible loose connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 put a timing light on the plug wires they spark for sure in the head. and the plugs i pulled had some gas on the ends. wouldnt that same switch also control the priming of the pump? therefore if it primes which it is then it should fire, plus when cranking it sparks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 So my comanche still refuses to start, i did the whole flashing check engine light codes.. and the only ones that showed up where 12, 33 which are coolant fan, and attery power disconnected. She still won't start and i don't know what else to even look at!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Sounds like to me your injectors aren't working. It's not likely all 6 wouild Kaput at the same time so seems like your just not getting a signal to them.I would check all connections, plugs, wires, grounds associated with the ECU, Computer, injectors. Altho what I don't understand is why you can spray gas in directly and it doesn't fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 yea i know, it has spark fuel and air...it should at least attempt to start..at this point id be happy with a sputter or two... :headpop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 It's very easy to flood a motor by pouring gas in the intake. Especialy with low spark, low compression, motor not spinning fast enough etc. I use a spray bottle and just a gentle squeeze at first just a mist and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 i poured it in yesterday around 2 pm. still didnt start today, the gas if it was flooded should have evaporated by now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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