88mjmanche Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 i am new at this and i have a 2 inch BB lift in my 88 manche and i want to do a 3 inch coil lift and a 3 inch shackle lift to make the total lift 5 inches what othe parts do i need :hmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mjmanche Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 i am new at this and i have a 2 inch BB lift in my 88 manche and i want to do a 3 inch coil lift and a 3 inch shackle lift to make the total lift 5 inches what othe parts do i need :hmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddzz1 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 For the rear, I would suggest new leaf packs that will give a 4.5" lift or atleast an add-a-leaf. Or you can go spring over which will get you about 6" and be alot cheaper. When you get to about 4" or over in the front you are going to need upper and lower control arms, trac bar, longer brake lines, longer sway bar links, bump stops and shocks all around. If you go with a 3" lift you can keep alot of the stock front suspension parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddzz1 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 For the rear, I would suggest new leaf packs that will give a 4.5" lift or atleast an add-a-leaf. Or you can go spring over which will get you about 6" and be alot cheaper. When you get to about 4" or over in the front you are going to need upper and lower control arms, trac bar, longer brake lines, longer sway bar links, bump stops and shocks all around. If you go with a 3" lift you can keep alot of the stock front suspension parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 don't go with a 3in shackle. thats way too much in my opinion. just go with an add-a-leaf or a whole new leaf pack. you'll be happier in the long run (especially if you go with a new leaf pack). for a 5in lift, you'll need to address the upper and lower control arms, brake lines, shocks, sway bar end links, tracbar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 don't go with a 3in shackle. thats way too much in my opinion. just go with an add-a-leaf or a whole new leaf pack. you'll be happier in the long run (especially if you go with a new leaf pack). for a 5in lift, you'll need to address the upper and lower control arms, brake lines, shocks, sway bar end links, tracbar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mjmanche Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 thanx guys that is really helpful should i just buy a kit that would have all these parts?????? :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mjmanche Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 thanx guys that is really helpful should i just buy a kit that would have all these parts?????? :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motion Offroad Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 The front you can get away with just adding a 3" coil, but for the price of a 3" coil you might as well get yourself a 4.5" coil if your going to be buying them anyways. Price between the 2 is VERY minimal. As for the rear, you don't want to use a shackle to get 5" of lift. The shackle would have to be about 12" long... You need to do an AAL or a new set of rear leafs. At 5" of lift you REALLY need to do other things as well. Adjustable Trackbar - In our opinion anything over 2" of lift on a XJ/MJ should use an adjustable tracbar. The factory one just is not long enough. Trackbar drop brackets are just asking for issues as well. An adjustable trackbar keeps your axle centered under your rig, and at 3" of lift it is noticeable that your axle is not centered anymore. Plus if you ran with the stock tracbar it can (and probably will) wear your tires funny over time. Trackbars are much cheaper than a new set of tires. Coils vs. Spacers - A debatable topic. In our opinion anything over 1.5" of spacer is a "no-no". I'd venture to say that in my opinion the only reason spacers should be ran is to level out a lift, or for more lift after a heavy duty aftermarket bumper and/or winch. Coils are cheap... Lower Control Arms - No questions about this one. At 5" of lift you NEED to have longer lower control arms Rear Leafs vs. Add A Leafs (AAL's) - Depends on the condition of your factory packs and if your going to be offroading it or using it as a truck to haul/carry things. AAL's make your leaf packs sag faster, and throwing a miss-matched leaf with more/less arch into a factory pack typically makes the ride suffer greatly. We feel new leafs are the best route; thus why our kit comes with them. Swaybar Disco's - EVERY Jeep driven on the road should have their swaybar connected. Driving your jeep offroad you'll get better flex with your swaybar disco'd. Bumpstops - XJ front bumpstops work on the MJ. The rear is a bit more tricky and we've got a trick setup for the MJ coming on the market in the very near future. Bumpstops are important as they limit the flex and provent your springs/leafs from over flexing and wearing them out sooner. Also you typically get more flex when you hit your bumpstop as it forces the other side of the axle down. Brakelines - You'll need much longer brakelines at 5" of lift. It is highly recommended that you do not wheel your MJ without longer brakelines. If you over-stretch the factory rubber one's you risk damaging them and they may fail on you when you least expect it (driving down the road). Let us know if we can be of any further help. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motion Offroad Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 The front you can get away with just adding a 3" coil, but for the price of a 3" coil you might as well get yourself a 4.5" coil if your going to be buying them anyways. Price between the 2 is VERY minimal. As for the rear, you don't want to use a shackle to get 5" of lift. The shackle would have to be about 12" long... You need to do an AAL or a new set of rear leafs. At 5" of lift you REALLY need to do other things as well. Adjustable Trackbar - In our opinion anything over 2" of lift on a XJ/MJ should use an adjustable tracbar. The factory one just is not long enough. Trackbar drop brackets are just asking for issues as well. An adjustable trackbar keeps your axle centered under your rig, and at 3" of lift it is noticeable that your axle is not centered anymore. Plus if you ran with the stock tracbar it can (and probably will) wear your tires funny over time. Trackbars are much cheaper than a new set of tires. Coils vs. Spacers - A debatable topic. In our opinion anything over 1.5" of spacer is a "no-no". I'd venture to say that in my opinion the only reason spacers should be ran is to level out a lift, or for more lift after a heavy duty aftermarket bumper and/or winch. Coils are cheap... Lower Control Arms - No questions about this one. At 5" of lift you NEED to have longer lower control arms Rear Leafs vs. Add A Leafs (AAL's) - Depends on the condition of your factory packs and if your going to be offroading it or using it as a truck to haul/carry things. AAL's make your leaf packs sag faster, and throwing a miss-matched leaf with more/less arch into a factory pack typically makes the ride suffer greatly. We feel new leafs are the best route; thus why our kit comes with them. Swaybar Disco's - EVERY Jeep driven on the road should have their swaybar connected. Driving your jeep offroad you'll get better flex with your swaybar disco'd. Bumpstops - XJ front bumpstops work on the MJ. The rear is a bit more tricky and we've got a trick setup for the MJ coming on the market in the very near future. Bumpstops are important as they limit the flex and provent your springs/leafs from over flexing and wearing them out sooner. Also you typically get more flex when you hit your bumpstop as it forces the other side of the axle down. Brakelines - You'll need much longer brakelines at 5" of lift. It is highly recommended that you do not wheel your MJ without longer brakelines. If you over-stretch the factory rubber one's you risk damaging them and they may fail on you when you least expect it (driving down the road). Let us know if we can be of any further help. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 thanx guys that is really helpful should i just buy a kit that would have all these parts?????? :dunno: thats what i would do. or you can piece together your lift with new/used parts which is what i did. while looking for a lift, make sure that everything listed above is included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 thanx guys that is really helpful should i just buy a kit that would have all these parts?????? :dunno: thats what i would do. or you can piece together your lift with new/used parts which is what i did. while looking for a lift, make sure that everything listed above is included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mjmanche Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 thank you guy soo much you are a huge help to me now i will be kit shopping for the next month thank you :clapping: :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mjmanche Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 thank you guy soo much you are a huge help to me now i will be kit shopping for the next month thank you :clapping: :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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