comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 i was told that the dana 30 and the dana 35 wil lbreak/wear out components fast etc.... if i run 33 tires with a 6 inch lift. anouther question is how big can i go with the tires before i do run into problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 If you upgrade the shafts/joints in the 30, it should do fine with 33s. Just don't be stupid with the gas pedal. The 35 on the other hand, well, I'd start looking for a better choice, like an XJ/MJ Dana 44 or an Explorer 8.8 or a 97+ XJ 8.25. What kind of wheeling are you looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 most likely some bfg mud terrains or some bfg a/t 33/12.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 No, I mean what kinds of offroading do you plan to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 everything mostly trail riding and mudd boggin cause thats alot of what we have up here not many rocks but alot of hilsls so add hill climbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 What's your budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 well I'm hoping that around 3000 for everything i have a guy that might do my drive axles and I'm hoping that 1000 of that budget can go towards rock sliders and bush bumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 in a while I'm going to put more into it but i have to go to the states and get it in the first place so technically i will have already spent around 6000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Well, I'd advise making an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of you various options. Tally up the various costs and make sure you can do it under budget, and do that before you spend dime one. If you plan to be hard on your rig, then maybe the Dana 30 isn't right for you. But what are the costs of adapting and regearing that Grand Waggy front axle to match the Isuzu rear axle? How does that compare to buying and adapting the new JK rubicon axles? Don't forget that there are tons of little things that'll suck up your money real fast if you aren't prepared for them (especially if your new old truck needs some "updates" to the vital systems). The spreadsheet for my 88 build was quite long and extensive before I had even bought that donor Bronco. Unfortunately I can't share it, as it was lost with the old computer. :( Keep yourself organized. It free and it'll save you money in the end. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 yeah see I'm a heavy duty mechanic just starting so I'm not really familliar with what it is i need to do to change it like I'm thinking i might buy that lift kit from motion offroad the 6.5 inch one and tell him its the dana 44 so then all the ounting is simple all i have to do is mount up the new one as for the front i'll probly need all new steering won't i? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 i priced out an explorer 8.8 today it was 800 with disc breaks for a rear what else did you have to do to put that under the rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 800 bucks for a stock 8.8! The last one I bought was $100. I'd keep looking... Installation is fairly straightforward. Stuff like welding on new perches, getting the right yoke adapter, fiddling with the brake lines, etc. It's a rear axle after all. Search google for swaps into YJs. They are leaf sprung and the 8.8 swap is pretty much the same as ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 up here stuff isent cheap sadly i was hoping i could find a cherokke with a rear dana 44 so i could swap it out and put it in mine. i have anouther question did the comanche chief always have the dana 44 cause i know where theres one sitting in a field. do you know anyone who has a comanche project on here with like step by step how to install a dana 44 cause seriously that would be so sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 No, the Chief will not automatically have a 44. If the 44 came from an MJ, then it bolts right in. But the gearing will be atrocious. 3.07 and 3.55 are by far the most common ratios in MJ 44s. So if you did find one, plan on regearing costs. (also it's a 20 year old axle, so plan on new seals and possibly bearings etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpackjeeper Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I would wheel the 35 till you break it, or till a good deal falls in your lap. While it is not an increadibly strong axle, it is not a POS either if you treat it right. I have been running one on 33's for 6 years with no problems, and the last two years have had a stroker in there as well. If you treat it liek a D60 your will break it, if you acknowledge that it is a weak link and drive accordingly it will be fine. side note: I have a Ford 9" ready to go in when it breaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 how hard is that to install it in what things do you need to put into it to make it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I assume you are talking about an 8.8 or an isuzu rear. Basically you will need to move the spring perches, and get a companion flange. I reccommend getting a spicer one. Also with the 8.8 got to the dealer and get the u-bolts.. they are kinda special. Lots of ppl try to adapt their brake cable to make the parking brake work. I recommend by a line lock from summit or jegs and install that. The 9" unless it came from an early bronco, is a different width. For the front find a waggy d44 and buy a truss from a reputable company and wheel. I personally use a d30 with a few mods. Alloy usa shafts, LCA skid plates, with no issues. BTW I am abusive on my stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpackjeeper Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 . Lots of ppl try to adapt their brake cable to make the parking brake work. I recommend by a line lock from summit or jegs and install that. The 9" unless it came from an early bronco, is a different width. 1. Do not use a line lock as an E-brake. If you lose your hydraulics you want a brake setup that will work without fluid. Line locks are not designed to be used as anything other than a holding system for burnouts. Use a cable system or a t-case brake, you want something that can be used to stop the vehicle as well as something that can hold it on a hill. I have seen more than one line lock stop holding when used as a parking brake. I would get a set of chocks before I used a line lock. 2)early f-100's have 9" that is the correct width as well. And some from larger merc's and lincoln's are about the right width with disc brakes, just more cutting and setup required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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