Sir Sam Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Copy Paste from something I posted on LOST trying to get interest in these, if anyone here is interested or knows any KJ owners that might be interested, spread the word if you think that they are interested. I'm talking to a manufacturer who can make a derivative of a JK wrangler foglight for out KJs that is bolt in. The modification required is small, but requires a new mold be made for the aluminum housing. With this modification to the housing these lights are a bolt in replacement, and for a vehicle already equipped with fogs its a 10 minute install. However, the tooling cost is $3200 to get the modified mold made. No way in hell I'm personally taking that on. My thought is that with enough interest from owners willing to commit to sharing the change order costs we could get an attractive price per unit/owner for the change. I have been testing these lights in the CRD and they are fantastic, the other day in a snowstorm I turned off the headlights and just used the foglights since they threw less light up high and I had less snowflake blinding light. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvAMg9qoQ3s&ab_channel=COrobotchicken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6L2y9YVsOA&ab_channel=COrobotchicken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMIjFrhSccE&ab_channel=COrobotchicken One model has a halo ring with driving light and orange turn available. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3zQilRvO8Q&ab_channel=COrobotchicken The lights themselves run about $20-30 for a pair, but the shipping per unit is often about as much as the purchase price. Since these are not being imported by the container full shipping costs are fairly high from China to US, and then within the US as well. My thoughts are roughly this, I create a gofundme where owners can commit a certain amount to share the cost of getting the mold made. Maybe set the price as $X = 1 share of the molding cost. When a total of Y shares have been bought via gofundme, each owner will be able to purchase a pair of lights per each "share" they bought AT COST delivered to their door. The cost of the share and the cost of the light would end up being less than purchasing a similar set of JK wrangler foglights, and also be bolt in. Basically you pre-order and place a deposit per light, and when they are ready for purchase you pay the remainder due per light. If I don't get enough pre-orders everyone gets their deposits back. Now that I typed that, thats a much easier way to explain it. Want more lights than you pre-ordered? You pay the regular price(TBD). Want to wait and see what the regular price is? Then this may not happen, the only way this can work is with people interested in committing now so in a couple of months we can these available. Lets just assume some numbers right now, $30 deposit for pre-order. $30 per pair of lights, $30 shipping to your door. Thats still less than comparable Wrangler lights which do not fit the KJ. Let me know your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 based purely on how often someone asks about LEDs at that KJ facebook page, I see no reason why you can't raise enough dough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 wait, so these headlights have built-in foglights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Pete M said: based purely on how often someone asks about LEDs at that KJ facebook page, I see no reason why you can't raise enough dough. Ya I need to break out the Facebook and find my way onto some groups. I just don’t like Facebook much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Pete M said: wait, so these headlights have built-in foglights? No, this is a replacement for the stock foglights on non renegade 05+ jeeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, Sir Sam said: No, this is a replacement for the stock foglights on non renegade 05+ jeeps. dang. the one big drawback to my flattop conversion. facebook is where you're going to find the "I need LEDs, but don't know how to fab anything" crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 22 hours ago, Pete M said: dang. the one big drawback to my flattop conversion. facebook is where you're going to find the "I need LEDs, but don't know how to fab anything" crowd. Yes I went through the same thinking when I put the renegade setup on my CRD. Those renegade foglights are more for aesthetics than function, and they get pretty beat up sitting out on the front, whereas the grill foglights are pretty protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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