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At this point I'll probably drive it off the end of the dock into the pond on the back of my property before I take it back apart and fix it.

The clip would just be for holding the thingy in place until its all bolted up... That's why I wasn't so worried about it originally. Now, I'm a tard for not missing the correct bearing retainer... Does the different bearing retainer use the same seal? It's not leaking, doubt I'll replace it...

Wow! Chrysler wants 290 bucks for that thing! lol Figured I'd call for the fun of it. They do have the retainer clip tho. 3 bucks... for a heavy duty funny shaped paper clip.

I'm converting my 88 MJ over from internal slave to external slave. I have everything that I need except the bearing retainer. I need the bearing retainer from a 1994 and up 2.5 AX-4/5 that originally came with an external slave cylinder. Looks like this. I'm on a serious budget here, I've already spent more on this project than I should have. I hope someone has one of these laying around. Thanks! A

Thanks! I may give him a call. Thats the cheapest price I've seen yet. Tho, since I'm not really pressed for time and I've already spent too much money I'll probably look around for a bit long and see if I can find it dirt cheap locally. If I can't find one I'll be giving him a call. Thanks for the contact info.

I'm interested. I can't find one online for less than 100 bucks.

Yeah, I see that. It's a shame that part is so high. http://www.jeep4x4center.com/bearing-re ... 46025.html Do any of your guys have this part laying around?! How much different is this one from the AX-15 bearing retainer? The one pictured is for the AX-4/5

http://www.shopjeepparts.com/front-bear ... -3658.html It's item 3 in this exploded diagram. 126 bucks... This is the bearing retainer that I have in my possesion which is the same one that was already on the tranmission for the internal slave. That's my problem riiight there.

AH! I was told I needed the bearing retainer... When I bought the bell housing the guy sold me that plate but it looks identical to the one that's on the transmission now. There is no sleeve on it. So I should be looking for a bearing retainer...

What is that that looks like a sleeve on the input shaft? All I have is a throw out bearing on mine. The throw out is not a snug fit on the shaft... I guess I'm missing something else. I wonder if I can get the clip from the dealership. I feel like a tard for not having these parts. Ill hunt down an exploded diagram of all this stuff tomorrow. Thanks for the help so far!

The pilot bearing is in the fly wheel on the 2.5. Remove the fly wheel. And tap out the bearing. No, I don't have the clip, didn't know there was one. But assuming the fork is in place its still not pushing far enough out. Got a link to the clip?

And you're right, parts lists call for the same clutch kit/throwout bearing for the 94 Wrangler and XJ... WHAT is different! This is driving me crazy. d

Pilot bearing spacer? I removed the fly wheel, set a socket on the pilot bearing and tapped it out and tapped the new one in. Replaced the RMS while I was in there. I'm not sure where there was a spacer at. The XJ master has the correct throw now. It has to be right. It still feel like the clutch isn't being pressed in far enough. I'm wondering if the "fork" in the bell housing has moved around. Is it supposed to have a way to attach the fork to the pivot point opposite the slave cylinder?

Thanks man, ill probably return the part I bought and buy the xj one if its the right length. If not ill cut up my pedal. I'm really close to being fed up with this thing. I got the new XJ master/slave cylinder from the parts store. The shaft on the master is the same length as the master that I pulled out originally. (5") I installed everything... (The XJ assembly fit MUCH better than the YJ assemble.) Started the truck and now I can pull it out of gear but I can't put it back in gear. Something still isn't right. Now, I'm starting to wonder if the throw out bearing is right... I REALLY don't want to have to pull all that stuff back down. Also, I'm getting a faint grinding sound when I let off the clutch. Maybe something isn't where it's supposed to be inside the bell housing. When I'm done with this there will be a complete list of part numbers made available online for this swap...

Thanks man, ill probably return the part I bought and buy the xj one if its the right length. If not ill cut up my pedal.

Yup, that's exactly what I did with the mounting flange. The pedal mods... do I want to do that or get the right master... hmmmm. Now, I see how it's possible since you can move the mounting point and the pedal seperately. For some reason I was thinking that the stud was on the pedal... You'd think I would have thought of that considering I stared at it for 2 hours last night. I'd still like to know if the XJ master has a longer shaft.

See, I thought about that. But the problem is that the pedal is hiting the floor before it pushes far enough. The pedal doesn't have enough throw in it to do the Job. If I did what you're talking about it looks like the pedal would bottom out on the pedal bracket assembly. The only thing that looks feasible is a MC with a longer shaft. Also, did you have to modify the mounting flange on the MC?

Yeah, I've had similar issues in the past. I ended up calling the general manager once to straighten out an issue. You just have to find a store and make friends with one person that understands cars and go back to the same person every time. A 'friend' will overlook a lot of things that a first timer wouldn't. And trust me, no matter what they say... The counter person has complete control over how many times that part is exchanged. It's all up to their judgement. I could warranty out the same part 200 times in a week to the same customer if I wanted to. Don't let them give you any of this crap about only honoring the warranty once.

That would be awesome. Please do let me know. I'm hoping the shaft on the XJ cylinder is going to be 5"s long. The YJ Cylinder is 4"-4.5" long. Looking for the measurement from the back of the mounting flange to the center of the hole at the end of the shaft.

Well, you have to think... They did continuously swap out parts for you until they got it right... and you also have to consider that O'Reilly's doesn't make these parts. They just sell what they get on the shelf. I don't judge a parts store by it's individual parts. I judge the people that work there, their competency and it's managment.

I'd love to hear it. I've had good and bad experiences with O'Reilly's parts. Over time I've learned what to stay away from. I've never really used these parts but I didn't notice a huge trend in Power Torque parts coming in for warranty. I feel like any parts store is going to have good parts and bad parts. That's the bad thing about dealing with aftermarket or remanufactured parts. They're hit and miss. Personally, I hate Advance because they hire idiots that don't know how to change a tire. Napa is alright but they're slow. Tho, I guess I must tell you, I managed an O'Reilly's for about 4 years. So I may be a little biased. I don't work for them now but I did and I've seen a lot of junk come back in so it has me on my toes. I'll tell you, never buy an A-1 Cardone remanufactured water pump. ;)

Fellas, I haven't been able to find my answer so hopefully you can help me. I have an 88 2.5L AX-4 MJ. As much as I'd love to swap in the 4.0 AX-15 I don't have time for that right now. I acquired the truck with a busted slave cylinder. I didn't want to have to drop the transmission again so I swapped from the internal slave to the external slave cylinder. I replaced the RMS, clutch kit, new throw-out, 94 model bell housing with the fork and a new external slave/master cylinder pre-bled assembly. I got it all bolted up and the clutch feels strange and I believe I know why. I can press the clutch and start the truck in gear which tells me that the clutch is at least slipping. Once the truck is running I can't pull the trans out of gear or put it in gear which tells me that the clutch is not fully disengaging. SO, I started trying to figure out what was different. The truck is acting like I'm only pressing the clutch half way in. (And that's how the clutch feels...) That pointed my attention to the clutch master cylinder... I removed the master cylinder and compared it to the old one. The main thing I've noticed is that the pedal shaft on the NEW master is 1" shorter than the shaft on the OLD master. Set up this way I'm only pushing the shaft about half way in when I push the clutch to the floor. I'm fairly certain that is causing my problem. I haven't tried it yet but I feel like if I were to disconnect the shaft from the pedal and push the shaft in by hand then I could shift the truck with it running. But I'd like to get the pedal working as my back is getting old and I don't think I could handle pushing the master cylinder in by hand every time I wanted to change gears. ;) Now, my question to you is which clutch master cylinder did you use? Which vehicle did you find it on. I've figured out the hard way that the one on a 94 Wrangler is ever so slightly different than the one that I need. Am I correct in thinking that the master/slave assembly from a 94 XJ will help out here? For reference: This is the one that I have on the truck now and I'm having problems with. This one comes up when searching for a 94 2.5 Wrangler. Notice the difference in the mounting flange for the master cylinder. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detai ... &ppt=C0015 Now, I searched for a 94 XJ 2.5 and came up with a slightly different number and it appears to at least have the correct mounting flange on the master. I ordered it so I could measure the shaft that goes to the pedal. I guess we'll find out tomorrow when the part shows up. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detai ... &ppt=C0015

I've been trying to find an M100 for some time but they're getting exceedingly difficult to find around here.

Awesome looking Truck! I love the Painting on the hood of the XJ! Do you have more pictures of the XJ Camper?

Not really how I'm used to it working... Apparently now I get emails to my phone everytime somone posts... I can't deal with my phone screaming at 3am when one you guys post something. lol I guess it's just something to get used to. The UserCP looks kinda the same but doesn't seem very user friendly. Thanks tho!