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Below are the links to my photo bucket should be for public viewing. These are photos take after installing Old Man with MJ headliner I am waiting on Skidoo_J to receive his headliner panel and have him install it. I or Skidoo_J will post the results of his fitment.

>>>>> FINAL UPDATE, hopefully! <<<<< I made and installed Old man with MJ headliner today and it actually fit great! I still have to upload photos to photobucket and as soon as I do that, I will attach the link. Skidoo_J headliner will ship out on Tuesday if all goes well. It will be a week long journey for it to arrive to him. After he installs his headliner and if all goes well with his, I will restart production. I believe I have all the issues worked out but want to make sure with Skidoo_J's headliner. Again both Skidoo_J and Old man with MJ have been a great help on providing feedback and a truck to correct these issues. I inquired on the purchase of the 1988 MJ that Old man with MJ owned. He is not going to part ways with it anytime soon. He is the original owner and truck was surprisingly in great shape. Thanks again Jim and Jerred! Steve

I am looking at a sample chart while typing this there are 48 different colors I can obtain. What color were you looking for? Steve

Progress Update: i met old man with MJ today just before noon. Had to finish a bronco Headliner and a set of fj40 door panels. I started on the MJ and after 3 fittings I have a great fitting template. I am going to make the headliner tomorrow, install it then I will remove it and cover it double check fitment and I will take photos and try to get them posted Steve

UPDATE: Well it looks like Old man with MJ is going to bring his truck over Saturday morning for me to start modifying my template. With the help from Skidoo_J and Old man with MJ, I should hopefully be able to start sending replacements out soon. I will make one for Old man with MJ and then make one for Skidoo_J to test. I believe all will go well and will start sending replacements out as soon as I can get to them. Hopefully that will be Monday 4/15 when the first batch gets shipped out. I will provide an update on the progress of the testing with Old man with MJ. Again, I thank everyone for their patience while I work through this and for those who have contacted me, your panels will be headed out soon. For those who have not contacted me, I will be in touch with you soon. Steve

If you will send me the American flag, I will give you a headliner kit with extra material for you to have your sunvisors recovered locally. There is a lot to be said about the use and display of the American Flag and I would rather give you a kit and preserve the flag or dispose of it properly. If you want to go forward with this transaction, pm me your name and address and the kit color you need and I will forward you my address to ship the flag to. When you get through with college try at least 4 years in the military and you might have a better understanding of where I am coming from Steve Bennett, Retired, USAF

MJ Man: It's better that way than to be put to rest IMO. Its one of my grandpas old flags. He served in Vietnam and I would rather run it in my headliner than burn it and since the ends are what are all tore up and it is not able to be flown. So I appreciate your opinion and know where you’re coming from but I my mind its worth the idea.. Like I said, its an idea not something for sure going to do. Edit: Well I guess that is against the U.S. Flag code. http://www.usflag.org/us.code36.html (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling. Steve: you quoted me but you comments didnt post. Like I said, I respect you 100% and everything you are doing. God bless you for being a stand up guy. But let me try it and if I fail I will definitely buy one form you. :thumbsup: Re-read my post

Zack, Honestly for the price steve is charging at 100 I'd get on the list and buy one when he starts production again. I tried to redo mine and there are alot of issues to encounter. first your existing headliner is 20 years old and brittle. I mean you'll be lucky to get it uninstalled with out destroying the edges. Second The Velcro is stronger then the backer board so when you remove the panel. One of mine tore completely off, the other partially off. Once the panel is out removing the old foam from the board so you have a clean smooth surface is damn difficult. And causes further damage to the headliner. Then if you're still stubborn like me and think I'm already this far. The headliner material at joann's is about $30 for enough to do the headliner, then the spray adhesive is like $15 a can. Even after following the directions my newly applied by me liner lasted about a month as i apparently didnt get enough of the old crap off the board and areas started to sag. This is why I jumped at SMSheadliners sale. I was happy with the very first headliner he had made. It's fitment was a little off, but damn it looked good. Once he gets this thing perfected it would be worth a mint. I know it Ive seen the pcitures, but theres an amount of pride that come with saying yeah I did that. Yeah it make look good but I didnt do it. If that makes sense, and if I mess up at least I tired. Plus Ive got an old big @$$ american flag I'm thinking about using but we'll see you never know haha Plus its a 100 bucks. Yeah thats super cheap don't get wrong, but to broke @$$ college with no job its not cheap by anymeans.. Damn If I didnt run truck here I would totally have a job and buy one of these If you will send me the American flag, I will give you a headliner kit with extra material for you to have your sunvisors recovered locally. There is a lot to be said about the use and display of the American Flag and I would rather give you a kit and preserve the flag. If you want to go forward with this transaction, pm me your name and address and the kit color you need and I will forward you my address to ship the flag to. Steve

Skidoo_J has been a great help on this for me and with a little more fine tuning, I believe I can provide a great fitting headliner. He has provided me with information that should allow the sides to fit better in the J on the sides of the headliner. I have emailed him with several questions that I am waiting on a reply. These questions should help me get closer to a better end result but I am afraid it is going to take me spending another 8 - 10 hours with a Comanche truck that does not have a sun roof option to get this fitting better. I am going to see if I can source one locally from a member in the next 2 weeks. I am shooting in the dark on this only because it took me 6 months of advertising locally to come up with the sun roof optioned Comanche. I will post here on the pub and in craigslist locally. Steve

UPDATE #1:.......... Skidoo_J received the modified headliner today. "It appears to fit the original liner contour better". Unfortunately that is the only update I have for now. I will update this as the information comes in to me. Steve

Sorry for the Triple post. My smart phone is not that smart...I should say the operator of the smart phone. For those who are willing to pay for the shipping of the replacement, I say thank you. But it is not necessary. Since I do operate SMS Headliners llc as a business, I will write off my expenses at the end of the year. This might help me at tax time for next year. I do really appreciate the offer and I appreciate the opportunity to work with each and everyone of you. I have turned something I love to do into a business. It is no where near the level to where I could do this full time as of yet, but that is my goal. Some people Like to play golf, hunt, fish, or rebuild their Jeep Comanche's, I like creating a headliner panel from scratch and seeing what it turns into at the finished process. Again, thank all of you for understanding that sometimes there are glitches and I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity to correct the glitch and make this right! Steve

Thanks for the offer! I already have an oe panel. Steve

I tried sending you an email but it came back to me as non deliverable. It will have the second modification but will still have fitment issues. I will not need the headliner sent back. Please discard the headliner panel. It will only aggravate you if you try to install it.

I appreciate the kind words. If you decided to go with the panel, send me the kit back if you purchased it from me, I will even email you a shipping label and I will use the kit on your headliner panel. Steve

It has been brought to my attention that the Headliners I have been custom making are not fitting like oe. I made a correction to the assembly process and tried relaxing the back corners. This helped, but not enough. I am in the process of reconfiguring my template and working close with Skidoo_J on fitting the headliner panels. I am shipping a headliner panel out tomorrow expedited to Skidoo_J for a fitment. I believe I have the issue corrected with this template, but it will take fitting it to know for sure. I am set make and ship as many headliner panels as possible to get this right! The front edge was fitting perfect and the passenger side fitting great. The issue seemed to be in the drivers corner not fitting. Basically, the side to side length of the back edge of the the panel was short by approximately 1 inch. Not allowing it to sit correctly and therefore not allowing the B-Pillar trim to attach correctly. I modified my template by finding the center of the template and drew a vertical and horizontal line on the panel. I cut along the horizontal line separating the front portion from the back portion. I then cut along the vertical line on the back portion separating the driver and passenger back portion of the panel. I reused the front portion of the template since the front edge of the headliner fit perfect. I then reused the passenger side of the template since it fit great. I then flipped the passenger side over to mirror the passenger side to the drivers side and immediately saw where the 1" was lost at. Another issue with the fitment was the contour I was using on the back edge was to abrupt approx 45degree angle. This cause the panel height to be taller than the stock panel. I had originally built a forming buck for the headliner panel to sit in but it only account for the contours on the back edge and sides. It did not take into consideration the contours in the rear corners. With this being said, I have modified the contours to be more gradual than before. This should allow the panel to fit better at the roof line. I have made and shipped 17 total headliner panels with two of them I shipped replacements from the 1st correction I made. I offered a quality and fitment guarantee that my headliner panels would fit with out any modifications. The panels did not meet the guarantee. I am a one man operation and a man of my word. I will re make the headliner panels after the fitment issues have been corrected. I will send another headliner panel to those who have already purchased them. I still had two panels left to make on the ones that were purchased. I have already been in contact with those Comanche Club members and are waiting on the template correction to be finalized. If you prefer not to wait, I will refund your purchase price. I honestly believe that I can provide the great quality headliner panel for the Comanche Truck community and it can fit without any modifications. When I first set out to offer the panels, I did have access to a Comanche truck to test fit my panel design into. It was a sun roof optioned truck, but they used an oe panel with the sun roof opening cut out in the panel. I test fitted the panel at least 8 -10 times until I though it was a perfect fit. The installation was not difficult and did not have issues with the B Pillar not remount correctly. I don't understand why the template got as off as it did, but it did. For those who purchased the headliner panel and have not installed them yet, I would recommend not installing and allow me to send you another headliner. For those who have installed their headliner panel and are satisfied with the panel even though it had fitment issues, I would like the opportunity to send you another headliner panel. I do not need the original ones back. For those who would like a replacement headliner that have already purchased, I would need you to respond to me by sending me an email to SMSheadliners@windstream.net. Please provide me with your Comanche Club username, email address, and your actual name and shipping address. I have kept the invoices of the ones I have sold already and some of them only have your email address and some I have your name and address. I just need it for re-verification. For those who are on my waiting list, I do not want to send a product out knowing that it will not fit and will have to wait until the fitment issues have been corrected. Please note this will not be an over night process and may take 2 -2 1/2 months for me to make and re-ship the new headliner panels. I will make and ship in the sequence of when they were originally purchased. I am dedicated to see this through and want to be able to provide the best possible solution for the Comanche Club and the Comanche Communities. Finally, I am sorry for any inconvenience this has caused but I will make this right either by making another panel for you or by refunding your purchase price. I will extend the Comanche club group buy of $100 for the headliner panel already made and ready to install with extra material for you to have your sun visors recovered locally to those who are on the waiting list and for those who have not yet taken advantage of the group buy. This offer will be good initially through the end of April but could be extend through the end of May depending upon how long it will take to get the exact fitment corrected. I will await your responses

Thank you for your kind words and your endorsement! I appreciate your patience and time as we work through this. There is a lot to be said of making something from nothing and it turns out looking great. But being functional is even better. For others reading this post, please stand by for more information tomorrow.

Concerns with fitment issues of the Headliner Panels I have been making.... I will be releasing and announcement concerning this tomorrow probably early to mid morning time frame. I am still formulating my information and when I have all together, I will be posting it. Please stand by......

I believe that could be a possibility. The trick will be working in the rear corners. Also may be a little more due to the cost of real tree camo fabric. I will have to investigate and get back with you.

I am still running this but am still on hold for new orders until I get the other ones filled. I have my last batch to run this weekend and then I am going to contact the people on the waiting list. So you should be receiving your invoice Sunday evening or Monday. Steve

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You can install it same day or wait. I would recommend leaving it in the box until your ready to install. When you get ready to install it, curve the sides in or pull the sides in a little and this should stiffen the sides of the panel a little but enough to help take the curve out. Hope this helps! Steve

In 2011 I drove a Durango with a 3.6 traveling with 5 adult men and their luggage. I was very very impressed with the highway fuel mileage mpg. Apr 2012 I bought a new Chrysler 200 S not being use to driving a front wheel drive vehicle with the hp and torque that motor puts out takes a bit to get use to. 25000 miles later and less then a year old, I am pleased to say I have not had any issues. Are there any initial quirks about the motor you notice first?

Sorry, no