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1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
Seems to have fixed pump/baffle issue. I haven't seen anyone else do this, nor has it been suggested. I hope it works. In the image below, cut the sender guides on the tank wider (at 7 and 11 o'clock). At this orientation, the pump won't press into the baffle wall. I also was able to get the sock on with one hand in the tank. Had to walk away from it twice before I had an aneurysm. -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
Looks like I have a common issue: the baffle in the tank is in the way. However, it seems that if you turn the sender just a few degrees to the right, the pump will point straight down and sit in the baffle. This would require doubling the space for the guide tabs, but it seems easier than cutting the baffle (and compromising its function) getting a new tank, bending the sender, or getting a new sender. My hope is the gasket under tension keeps it aligned. It seems no one else has done this in the other threads. Also, the fuel gage is in the way when installing, so I have to partially disassemble the sender and reassemble it with one hand it the tank. I can do this, but getting the sock on the pump with one hand feels like a carnival game. -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
Looks like I'll go for the MTS JPSU-6P4.0. Seems like it will provide enough flow and PSI for the 3.4L. https://www.mtscompany.com/sendingunits.htm $39? Its like $65-$160 everywhere else: https://a.co/d/hePOZeq -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
Dropped the tank and pulled the sending unit. As I suspected, there's a hole near the rear grommet that is likely the source of water contamination. After I get a new tank, I need a fuel sending unit that will deliver 36-50 PSI to the Camaro engine. I prefer to do it in tank, but I'm not interested in figuring out a complicated custom system. I may do in-line so I can get this fired up this year. I'll need new fuel lines for the pressure in any case. Open to thoughts. -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
Spent some time this weekend sorting the original engine bay wiring a bit more. There are still several mystery connections to resolve (hanging outside of the cabin in the pic below). I removed the auxillery lights and relay for now. I also removed the fuel pump and what I think was the B+ latch relays as they look pretty corroded. I ordered a relay box and bus bar to help clean things up. I'll also relocate the electric fan relay the previous owner installed. Frustratingly, I found water in the passenger side cabin. I see in other posts this isn't terribly uncommon and is likely either the hood hinge seal or the blower/heater seal. I'm not wild about pulling the dash right now. Goal is to try and get the motor started soon. -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
It has those sections, for sure, but they don't have the illustrative diagrams that I found helpful as an amateur (pinouts, harness routes, etc.). If I'm wrong, let me know what page or upload (if you have have a chance). For example, white, yellow, and green run to the axle and I am guessing they are the 4wd actuator. Identifying these will take some time, but I suspect they are no longer necessary unless they run to the gauges. Points if you know what this is. -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
I removed the starter solenoid because the new starter has an attached solenoid. I'm thinking I'll keep the ignition relay. I removed the ICU/distributor (between the original fuses and alternator). The standalone wiring harness is largely thinned save for figuring out the C### connections. I need to clean up the remaining original wiring a bit more (A/C related, I/P to engine connectors, etc.). It is harder to find information on the 2.5L Comanche; the service manuals are not as thorough as the Camaro manuals I've been using for the engine (wiring diagrams for the instruments, headlights, etc.). -
Electrical Manual
FigurativeGarbage replied to BLHTAZ's topic in MJ Tech: DIY Projects and Write-Ups
I can't seem to download this (link is a blank page). Can anyone re-upload it? -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
Cleaned up my hand-drawn diagram on Lucidity. I believe I found one solution to this set up: a VSS dual bypass (Dakota Digital SEN-01-4280). This allows the mechanical signal to go to the dash and converts an electronic signal to the ECU. I believe the B28 Buffered Speed Output sends to the dash and therefore can be removed. I'll next make a list of the C100-230 wires that need to be resolved (fuel pump relay, etc) -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
I'm currently working on a standalone ECU harness. I’ve de-pinned around 17 wires from the ECU connectors. Most of these were related to automatic trans and AC functions, which are unnecessary for my standalone setup. (not my photo, but used for initial reference) (one of the Camaro manual diagrams) I've been looking at connectors C100, C210, C220, and C230 that connect to lights and the body harness. Example: the C220 alternator connector powers the dash. I have a GM VATS bypass from Timers. I need to figure out speedometer and fuel relay wiring. (The C220 only has two wires in it right now, and matching connector. I'll need to figure out the clutch anticipator.) I also discovered a mystery component with brown and black/white wires that seems to be tied to the oil level sensor area (it has some kind of recessed button that clicks when pressed). The actual oil level sensor connector nearby has two-black-wires. I'll trace the wires back for both if I have to. (Manual reset button? Diagnostics? Kill switch? Jetpack handheld ignition control?) -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
I got them from my neighbor. I'm sure you're right. Appreciated, but its okay. The original ones are on now. Mostly an aethetic thing anyways. -
Looking at the clearance, I think modifying the pan was unnecessary. Maybe other the other builds noted the issue had different set ups. See the attached photos; one may appear upside down, but you can see there's a great deal of clearance. In hindsight, I would have installed the engine without a pan and check the clearances after.
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1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
It's okay, they were aftermarket aluminum valve covers. I kept the original covers just in case. Glad I did. -
1986 2.5L to 3.4L: Amateur Hour
FigurativeGarbage replied to FigurativeGarbage's topic in Member Projects: Your Comanches
By December 2023, I had the 3.4L installed and was bolting in the exhaust manifolds. I broke a bolt in the cylinder head and I took the head off to have it professionally drilled out. I was horrified to find the cylinders were full of rust beyond what could be ignored of fixed with steel wool. The machine shop also tested the head: warped. I bought remanufactured heads from OReilly's for roughly $400 and paid $2k for the machinist to bore the cylinders, deck the mating surface, supply new pistons and bearings, and polish the crankshaft. I got the engine back around early spring and rebuilt the engine. At this point feel like I've replaced nearly everything on it. Countless trips to Ace to find the right bolts. The total cost has far exceeded what I would have spent on a crate engine, but then I wouldn't have learned how to install Helicoils in a newly machined engine block near the cylinder head mating surface. (Unsure what happened with area after spending all that money machining the mating surface) Now I'm on to wiring, which everyone has told me will be the most difficult part. I've pulled the old ECU (near driver's right knee if anyone is doing this) and attached harness. I've figured out all but one or two connectors on the new harness. My understanding is I need to delete the A/C (I deleted and replaced with a dummy pulley) transmission (this is a manual) level sensors and coolant temp sender (will be wired to the dash) C100 &C210-230 connections to non-engine Camaro harnesses. (I cracked the aluminum valve covers I so carefully painted red; they may not have been 100% compatible or I just over torqued) I will also need to figure out a new relay/fuse system. And figure out the antitheft bypass. And install the fuel pump, line, and power. And finish the coolant system. And power steering. And vacuum tubes. And drop the tank to figure out how this all started. I've found CC users to be genuinely helpful in my other posts and in the guides I've reviewed. I document my struggles and progress should this be of any use to someone or if anyone has suggestions moving forward. Cheers.
