Arch_Stanton

Just a heads up for you guys, I found the Dark Gray version of the CRL rear sliding glass in stock at a great price with super cheap shipping ($6 to my door!). I ordered mine on the 30th and it showed up today. I've seen this elsewhere for usually about $50 more, and I couldn't find the dark gray anywhere, so I'm pretty stoked. http://www.showerdoordirect.com/EDV700BT-Duo-Vent-Slider-1986-1992-Comanche/dp/B002CXUETU

I had them installed at a local suspension shop so I'm not sure if he put it down before tightening it up, but I hope so. I'll call tomorrow and ask. The owner's name is Ron, and he does most of the work himself, and I've always gotten a good vibe from him. For what it's worth, after installing the rear leafs he recommended I go with 3'' Superlift coils in the front. At the time I wanted to keep a bit of rake, and thought I might get as much as 2.5'' by replacing the worn out coil springs and isolators with new isolators and upcountry springs. The old springs may not have been as worn as I thought, but passenger side was sagging and the new coils have fixed that.

It looks to be 3.25'' next to a stock shackle

Yes. This is right after they were put on, before I pulled the tailgate. I found a better condition tailgate, unfortunately it's white.

Now looking at my own picture I'm thinking, stick the rear bumper and a camper cover on it and call it a day. Aaaargh!!!!! I swear I just think about this damn truck all the time and there is something wrong with me! :doh:

Yeah, I have not reported on it yet but he will also be missing the ride of the OMEs springs too. My Bilsteins came to life in the front, shocks cannot compensate for poor springs..what a difference!! The JKS adjustable is a mistake, but it's one I cannot talk him out of. The Gabriels on the rear feel a little better today.....but still.......OMEs when I can afford it. And most definitely, the WJ LCAs are a must. I don't know if you're referring to me, but I have yet to install the JKS adjustables (still in the mail) and am all ears if anyone here thinks it is a bad idea. So far, the only objection I heard was that you'd have to cut the bump-stops off, which I don't think is necessary on my truck. I was interested in the adjustable spacers not only because I need a little height boost up front, but also because they will give me the ability to dial in the height to compensate for future changes, so they seemed better than a simple poly spacer. If it is going to make the truck ride rough on the street, then I may want to reconsider, and am very open to that. I had hoped the Moog upcountry springs would level it enough, but sadly no. Do you consider the Moog springs "poor" because they are a bad brand or because they are too short? I do not want to pull those coil springs out now, install longer springs, and then realize it still isn't level, so that's part of the appeal of the JKS spacers. Most importantly though, I don't want the truck to ride like sh** and/or look stupidly slanted one way or the other, so if I need to send those back and install new leafs or coils, whatever, I want the truck to be right and am willing to experiment a bit to get there. Thanks for the advice, I'm still learning as fast as I can! The adjuster has 1.5" built in. IIRC by your other post you said that your front is now down 1", it will be .5" above your rear height with the JKS. I suppose you can go up one with the shackle now. Now having installed the OME springs and have drove on them for a few days, yeah, I'd think they are superior to Moog. You have not stated any measurements yet. The JKS is $240 IIRC. The OME and the .75" lift cost me $202. You only need the one spacer, so leveling out your truck with superior springs will cost you under $200 and you could return the Moogs. It's up to you, it's yours. What you are doing is what I was going to do and I'm glad I didn't. The Moog springs are on the truck and have maybe 5 miles on them, not sure if they are returnable at this point. Also, I think that even installing the ACOS spacers at their lowest 1.5'' setting will leave the truck with a rake. I have a grille guard on the front that is pulling it down a bit currently, but any real measurements will have to wait until I put the tailgate and rear bumper back on. Just eyeballing it with the tailgate on, it seemed like a much larger difference from back to front than I expected, and I attached a pic (tailgate on) to get your opinion. Cost aside, do you think the difference in ride quality between a 1.5'' spring lift vs. a 1.5'' adjustable spacer lift is significant enough that I should avoid the spacer, even with good shocks? What if you factor in my circumstances like the adjustable shackle in the rear, my grille guard and potential add-ons down the road like winch and camper top? These aren't rhetorical questions at all, I really want and need the feedback. I don't think I've ever posted a picture of my truck, and wouldn't have posted any until it was "ready" unless I valued y'all's opinions. Thanks for any advice. P.S. sorry to hijack the thread

Yeah, I have not reported on it yet but he will also be missing the ride of the OMEs springs too. My Bilsteins came to life in the front, shocks cannot compensate for poor springs..what a difference!! The JKS adjustable is a mistake, but it's one I cannot talk him out of. The Gabriels on the rear feel a little better today.....but still.......OMEs when I can afford it. And most definitely, the WJ LCAs are a must. I don't know if you're referring to me, but I have yet to install the JKS adjustables (still in the mail) and am all ears if anyone here thinks it is a bad idea. So far, the only objection I heard was that you'd have to cut the bump-stops off, which I don't think is necessary on my truck. I was interested in the adjustable spacers not only because I need a little height boost up front, but also because they will give me the ability to dial in the height to compensate for future changes, so they seemed better than a simple poly spacer. If it is going to make the truck ride rough on the street, then I may want to reconsider, and am very open to that. I had hoped the Moog upcountry springs would level it enough, but sadly no. Do you consider the Moog springs "poor" because they are a bad brand or because they are too short? I do not want to pull those coil springs out now, install longer springs, and then realize it still isn't level, so that's part of the appeal of the JKS spacers. Most importantly though, I don't want the truck to ride like sh** and/or look stupidly slanted one way or the other, so if I need to send those back and install new leafs or coils, whatever, I want the truck to be right and am willing to experiment a bit to get there. Thanks for the advice, I'm still learning as fast as I can!

I haven't really driven it around too much since the leafs were put in, but it seemed ok. I will need new shocks front and back I think, definitely in the rear as they are too short now. I actually logged on today to get a recommendation on what shocks to get now, and that's how I found this thread. I am going to look into the OME nitrocharger shocks that Hornbrod listed in post #5, but I don't know about the yellow color. I guess they can be painted, but I'd prefer black if possible. As an aside, while the truck is getting the adjustable spacer installed and new shocks put on, is there anything else I should consider doing/replacing at the same time, like maybe installing Grand Cherokee lower control arms to help prevent rubbing if I move to a larger tire like 32's? Thanks!

My understanding is that you only need to cut on newer XJ models ('97-'01), and that old XJ and MJs have screw on bump stops that can be removed and stored.

Wow, I'm having the exact same issue here on my '91 SWB 4x4. I ordered new leafs from General Spring, and was surprised how much it lifted the rear. I know mine were sagged out, and that's why I replaced them, but I'd guess I'm sitting an inch higher then stock right now, and it would be even higher if I had used the stock shackles. Instead I used some budget boost XJ shackles (#IR-XABBS) with two height options. The higher height of the shackle was the closest I could find to stock, but I had to install it at the lower setting because the springs lifted the truck so much. I replaced the front coils with aftermarket XJ "upcountry" springs from Moog, and ordered new rubber isolators as well. After installing the new coil springs and isolators up front, the truck still has too much rake for me. My options now are to either uninstall everything and find more "stock" like leafs, or I can go higher in the front to level it out. I decided to order a front adjustable coil over spacer from JKS instead of using a poly spacer, and although it was more money than I had planned for this, I'm hoping it will level the truck up and give me more options in the future if I decide to go higher, or even just to level the truck out if I add accessories (winch, camper shell, etc...). At minimum, the JKS "ACOS" should lift the front 1.5'' and I am really hoping I don't have to get bigger tires to make it look right when this all gets sorted out. To be honest, I do blame the leaf springs for the unwanted lift, but I think the truck will look good in the end and I have all the original components still if I want to take it back to stock.

Sorry for the late reply. Morris 4x4 customer service was great. I sent them the pictures and they set me up with an RA number for the return, got a refund no problem, and they updated their website as well. I give them high marks.

I'm gonna think about it. I'm leaning towards just using the originals. Thanks a bunch for the replies guys.

It wouldn't be the end of the world, but the truck already has a bit of a rake on it. I think I could compensate with some bigger coil springs up front (Upcountry XJ coils?), but I haven't given it much thought as I'd planned on keeping it at the same height. I called Morris 4x4 to see if they had any other options, and they said they'd contact JKS to see what they said. It's probably much ado about nothing, but the description online did say that these shackles wouldn't lift a Comanche.

Well I got these JKS shackles in the mail, and went out to compare them to the originals, and these new ones are an inch longer and look like they will lift the truck in the rear. The description says that the shackles shouldn't provide any lift on a Comanche, but you can tell by the picture that they are not the same as the originals. Back to the drawing board I guess, will probably just use the originals.

Thanks guys, I'll probably pick up a set of those JKS shackles that Jeep Driver just linked to. I'm gonna have a shop put on the leaf springs, so I won't have a chance to recondition my current ones once they get pulled off. The plan is to install the new ones, then I'll keep the old ones, brush and paint them, pick up a set of bushings from NAPA, and then keep them for the future or pass them on down the road to someone else who may need them. Thanks again guys, I really appreciate all the help. Ross

Sorry, I don't really know what to call them. :dunno: I have the new leaf spring and bushing, and the mounting bracket up top looks ok, but I was thinking I need the middle part, the y-shaped bit and possibly the nuts and bolts if they come with it. Mine has a bit of surface rust and the rubber rings are starting to degrade. If you guys think they look ok then I'll go ahead and skip it, but I'm gonna have the springs replaced, so it'd be a good time to do it. Thanks for all your help, I'm admittedly a mechanical doofus but I'm trying to understand everything and order my own parts instead of just taking it to a shop. Here are a couple links to parts that I don't think will work for me, but give you an idea of what I'm looking for. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Crown-Leaf-Spring-Shackles-Hangers-Jeep-Cherokee-Comanche-52000507-/370995786086?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5661127166&vxp=mtr http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Jeep/Comanche/Crown/Leaf_Spring_Shackles_and_Hangers/1991/52000507KHD.html Thanks again, Ross

Hi all, I have been having trouble finding an OEM replacement set of rear leaf spring shackle hangers for my '91 swb. The ones I've seen all show to provide 1.5'' of lift, but I just want a factory style replacement. I got a new set of leaf springs and figured I should just replace the hangers and hardware at the same time. Can anyone point me towards a good set to buy? Thanks. Ross

I just talked to Joe at General Spring and he's got a new batch of Comanche springs coming in a couple weeks. He was helpful, and gave me a little price break because I mentioned I was a forum member, so I ordered a set of the 4-leaf for my '91 4x4. They are hard to find anyway and I think the price was right as well.

He has a friend who does decals. I think he paid around $80 for them.

This truck is not mine, but the owner did me a favor and I told him I'd list it. The truck is a 1991 2x4 that has a 4.0 swapped in for the original 2.5L. The owner is a mechanic who owns a shop and did all the work himself, including new paint and decals. I saw the truck coming out of a junkyard as i was going in, and I stopped him because this thing looked really nice and I wanted to see it. The interior looks amazing, the paint and decals look awesome, and I saw no rust at all. There were a couple dents on the hood maybe from hail, but I didn't notice any dents on the roof or anywhere else. He said that the A/C works perfectly along with all lights, switches etc... The truck is located in East Dallas, 75227, and the owners name is Ismael. His English is good but not perfect, but it's much better than my Spanish. Please message me if interested and I'll get you his contact info.

Hi guys, My mostly stock '91 4x4 is sagging down on the front passenger side, and I had a guy recommend re-arching the leaf springs at a cost of $375. I had another guy tell me his buddy could do it for around $200. It seems to me that replacing them would be a better long-term solution. My truck rides a bit higher than 2x4's I've seen, and i'd like to keep it as stock as possible. Should I have the original springs re-arched, or buy new ones from General Spring like in Hornbrod's link? What about Hell Creek? Thanks for any advice. Ross