Jzlajeep, thank you for the offer, and thanks to all the other members But it may be a moot point, I re-installed the tranny and after a few tests it appears that the 3rd gear synchro is shot, as it grinds going in and won't stay in gear, I knew it was worn but it always worked. When I pulled it there was only about a half pint of oil in it, I think I shocked it with new oil. The truck is very rough but the motor is very strong, though I think the old dog might be reaching the end of the line.