no it a great trail for anyone ive taken a stock rides to built jeeps ive owned this last trip i made the smallest rig was a yj on 33s open and he made it thru and in the snow I'm open in the front and a stock ford 8.8 posi in the rear and i didnt have any real trouble ive got a group of guys that like to hit potts a few times a year and hit big dogs up once or twice a year