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Alright, so I have made the mistake of not taking the speedo cable off of the donor vehicle when doing the cluster gauge swap and now I'm struggling part number. So far there have been 2 that are non cruise control CA3068 - non-plastic clip one CA3116 - plastic clip one. I believe that CA3068 is the correct one, but I want to make sure. Can one of you guys that have the speedo cable on the back of your cluster (Renix from 86 to 89) take a picture of it plugged into the speedometer and unplugged from the speedometer (the speedometer connector end) Any help would be appreciated guys!

If anyone knows what the part number for the speedo cable is for the non-cruise control MJ, please let me know. It goes from the speedometer back to the tcase. One I'm looking for is non-plastic one.

Thanks for clearing that up. Only thing left is to get the speedo gauge swapped for the right one

The one I searched on autozone claims to be TU154. Is there any difference between the 2?

Gotta return that one then. Part number for the right one? TU108 I believe. What about the speedo cable?

So I have swapped in the cluster and the tach works! So does the fuel gauge and the voltmeter (which is almost at the red line but still withing spec. probably newerish alternator producing 14 V which is okay). But there is some confusion. There are 2 temp sensors apparently. One on the intake and one on the head of the motor that is near firewall on the driver's side. Which is the one that needs replacing? According to NAPA (authorized mopar dealer) the only one that they have is the one on the intake, but some people say its the head one that needs to be replaced. Which is the right one??? Also, does anyone have the part number for the speedo cable that is WITHOUT the plastic clip? That's how the original one clipped and I didn't grab the right one when I was at the junkyard. Thanks guys!

I do not know if this is right, but here is what I found. If its first half of 87, it matches to 84-86. If its second half of 87, then its 88-90 Also, I heard the tac is not adjustable. The cluster i pulled I believe was out of a 4 cylinder model (or v6, didnt really pay attention). Is that going to be an issue? http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Interior/Instrument_Cluster.htm

Yours is the next generation cluster. Look good though. what year Jeep your cluster came out of?

Guys So its gauge cluster swap time on the 87 Manche, and I got a Renix era cluster. While doing this, it seems like a good idea to change the light bulbs to some blue leds. My question is, do the LEDs for 91+ years that are very common on eBay and Amazon will work with a 90 and earlier Renix gauges? Thanks guys

Well, will see. The main question was still the leveling the truck if its worth it. and sounds like people are saying itll be fine without it, so ill just get the rest finished.

I am going to a 245/70 R16, not R15. I am putting the tires off of the WJ basically on it cause I have a spare. And want new wheels too

Its just for leveling. I would only put a leveling lift on the front if needed. As far as the tires go, the new ones are .5" larger. They will fit I am sure. Thanks for the info guys. Think Ill just go without the lift, but if others see this, then by all means say your opinion. I want to hear what everyone has to say

Hey guys So i ran into a little issue while doing the axle swap on my MJ. The stock springs that I pulled off of the donor jeep, put the front ride height at about same height as with a 2wd axle. looks like the rear is about 1.5 inches higher than the front. Its not that major, but should the truck be leveled? I ask this now as the driveshaft is too long right now that was also pulled from the same jeep and needs to be shortened. I would rather shorten the shaft after putting the lift on for proper measurement. If it is worth leveling, is there a metal spacer kit? I would like to stay away from poly spacers, but its not as heave on the front as the WJs (mine has those for 2") Is there any benefits to leveling an MJ? I will go to a slightly larger tire size (245/70 R16) instead of 235/75 R15, but thats where this will stay cause this is the DD/parts hauler and a truck Also, have any of you noticed that the the driver side of the truck sits lower than the passenger (looking from the back)? The fuel tank is on that side and right now at about half so attributing it to that. Thanks guys

so i managed to score a dash out of a same era jeep wagoneer as my comanche. Taking it apart looks like I should be able to just swap the little odometer piece to match the existing mileage. It has connection to cable speedo too! the issue is that I pulled this out of a v6 looking engine. Will I need to recalibrate the speedo because of that? I need to do it anyway since the I haven't changed it after the higher ring and pinion. Next would be to get a oil pressure sending unit, thermostat and something else I'm sure. Other news is the springs I pulled off of the donor axle jeep are about same height. This makes the truck sit about 1.5" lower on the front. So after confirming this I will order a leveling kit. Sucks cause I just put the springs in, but I don't have a large load in the back that often, so its a good idea to level it. Any idea where to get a good metal level kit? I have a Rough Country one on my WJ and idk if they are really that good as a poly. Also, the driveshaft (stock) is too long. Can't even install it with full yoke copressed. So after the leveling kit, that will get shortened and put in. Just gotta wait till next paycheck lol

The swap is complete!! and she sits much better now, but there was an issue. the driveshaft from the donor vehicle is too long. There are 2 options the way I see it. 1. Get a small lift (puck lift for example) and use the original shaft 2. Take some measurements and get the shaft shortened. What do you guys think is a better idea???

Decided to wait on the transmission swap till after fall school semester. The axle swap is almost complete. Steering is all attached, needs alighnment which I will do how the guy from Bleepin Jeep did. The only thing missing is the shift linkage. Decided to use Novaks SK2XC since Jeep OEM ones are kinda crappy. But there is an issue. Since this is originally a 2wd model, the holes weren't drilled for the mounting braket in the transmissioin tunnel. So the plan is to get the kit and mock it up and drill the mounting holes for that. In the meantime, whats a good price for a used AX15? I want to do the swap eventually, but in meantime its parts collecting time.

Cool thanks guys So I have found on craigslist a whole trany/tcase combo and the guy is asking $1k for it. It seems much, but is it worth it? Its basically everything with the external cylinder and internal slave, and everything to convert from auto to a manual. Not worried about that since mine is already a manual. So is it a good price?

Welp, it is done. The rear end was put in. She can turn now. Onto the front axle. $740 to get it done, but it was at least at a reputable shop (Predator 4wd) and they had no issues getting it done. I still want to put in a tac, has anyone done that for an 87?

Thought I would put an update. All of the parts for the rear end have arrived and look good. total came out to $475. Decided to let the pros do it. Got an appointment set up at Predator 4wd in Colorado Springs. Heard good things about them, but itll be $740.... thats ridiculous, but rather have it done right the first time. on the up side, amazon has a full steering kit. Only thing after that that will be needed is a track bar that ill get closer to the swap. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QJBL058/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I17TADFMUCFIDO&colid=21ZAOLBJQJKJA I do have a question. Upon startup on some days, the engine revs up really high. I don't know how high because there is no tach in this one. What causes that? It goes away after i switch into third and drive for awhile but until then it doesn't. Speaking of, how hard is it to install an aftermarket tach? or may be swap for a later model gauge cluster? I had to slow down on this project because my WJ needed new brakes and calipers. Fortunately a BFH helped out with the stuck rotors

Have you guys had any experience with Revolutionary gear? I decided to have a shop do them and most try to stay away from those. Any reviews???

Welp, after a few questions and a bunch or research I have found all the parts for the rear end. I have been told that they will work together. Turns out Amazon had all of them for a pretty good price. Links below are what has been placed to order Carrier: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078UB428/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Ring and pinion: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017BW4XC0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Spider gears: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EHN3CK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Master install kit https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078U8QY2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 All of these I got to make the Jeep a daily driver/very mild off roader. So the budget was kind of issue. Once they are installed, I will give an update. Anyone know how to install rear end gears? I have never done this and will probably have to take to a shop (4 wheel parts i think) to get them installed and that $330. If someone is willing to help in the Colorado Springs area, that would be great.

Well given that this will be a daily driver/hauler (mild) i will put 75W-90 in there. How much do Dana 44 and HP Dana 30 take in? 2.5 quarts I believe Also, is there any difference between XJ and MJ axles between in bushings? And also between 2wd and 4wd versions?

oka thanks. The tranny works fine so ill leave it for now. Currently I am prepping the front axle for some minor paint against rust and I want to replace the upper control arm bushings casue they are pretty bad. Ill reuse the control arms I have on now, and use the springs i pulled off of the donor jeep for the front axle. Track bar will just be used from a 97 to 2001 XJ. So from current confirming questions: -When upgrading the tie rod ends to ZJ, are they a bolt on or do the holes need to drilled to a size larger? -Which steering stabalizer to use? from ZJ or XJ? -The bolt patter on XJ/MJ axles for the wheels are 5x4.5 right? -does a 75w-90 gear work okay or are there better ones? Think so far thats it

Thanks, thats a really good sum up. Other couple of questions I have: -Is there a poly bushing kit for the HPD30? I want to replace them now and would rather not go with stock ones as they are kind of a pain to install. -are the front springs different height between 2wd and 4wd models? seems 2wd sits lower than 4wd. -anyone want a wagoneer front end? I put the cherokee front facia on cause it looks better in my opinion and now have that just sitting there. have some headlight bessels too

So ideally if a donor XJ is found and you take tranny, tcase, crossmember, shift linkage for tranny and tcase (just in case) youll be good to go? Clutch should be bought new in my opinion. How is the size of the AX15 compared to the POS? If the lengths are the same then the driveshaft should be fine too