89 MJ Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Well, it looks like the Cherokee nameplate might be going away from Jeep. The Cherokee Chief (sorry, had to say it) has requested that Jeep stops using its name. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35568468/cherokee-nation-jeep-stop-using-name/ Let's discuss. Let me start off by saying that I have no Native American heritage. They way I always looked at the Cherokee (and Comanche, Mojave nameplate, etc.) was out of respect towards these people. Many other people viewed it this way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I am more worried about what they name the new kl and wks. I think it is time for the xj and mj to be left behind personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jesse J said: I am more worried about what they name the new kl and wks. I think it is time for the xj and mj to be left behind personally I agree, that the XJ/MJ should be left behind. I only brought them up to point out that Jeep has used other Native American names in the past, and I always viewed it out of respect for those people. I'm sure Jeep will come up with something stupid for a new name if they change them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Cancel culture basically guarantees Jeep will make the change. nothing is OK anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, 89 MJ said: I agree, that the XJ/MJ should be left behind. I only brought them up to point out that Jeep has used other Native American names in the past, and I always viewed it out of respect for those people. I'm sure Jeep will come up with something stupid for a new name if they change them. I agree it's not like the cars sucked maybe not out of respect but definetly not disrespectful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, 89eliminator said: Cancel culture basically guarantees Jeep will make the change. nothing is OK anymore. Just wait, some person named Willy will get offended by the Willys trim level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 things don't make sense to me. people are suddenly calling for diversity and saying no you can't have a native american on your butter because that's racist or something that doesn't make sense to me. and second how is mojave racist I thought it was named after the mojave desert. that's like getting offended at you naming a trim level after the sahara or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jesse J said: 2 things don't make sense to me. people are suddenly calling for diversity and saying no you can't have a native american on your butter because that's racist or something that doesn't make sense to me. and second how is mojave racist I thought it was named after the mojave desert. that's like getting offended at you naming a trim level after the sahara or something Exactly! Modern society is so contradictory. We need diversity and to have the minorities recognized, but not that way. The Mojave were a native american people too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohave_people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, 89 MJ said: Exactly! Modern society is so contradictory. We need diversity and to have the minorities recognized, but not that way. The Mojave were a native american people too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohave_people yeah for sure. I mean I guess they where a people but also theres still the desert. it's whatever I don't really care about stelantis being canceled. Just wondering what they are going to do. get rid of the platforms completely? rebadge them? a rebadge would be awkward. maybe they will phase out the kl and rebadge the wkl and wk2 because they JUST released the wkl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, eaglescout526 said: preach farnsworth preach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, eaglescout526 said: I think it is time to get our MJ island to live on now. 2 minutes ago, Jesse J said: Just wondering what they are going to do. get rid of the platforms completely? rebadge them? a rebadge would be awkward. maybe they will phase out the kl and rebadge the wkl and wk2 because they JUST released the wkl This is a great point, that thought hadn't crossed my mind yet. I'm not sure what they will need to do. Maybe they will just be called by their body codes. I'm sure any name would be offensive at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, 89 MJ said: I think it is time to get our MJ island to live on now. This is a great point, that thought hadn't crossed my mind yet. I'm not sure what they will need to do. Maybe they will just be called by their body codes. I'm sure any name would be offensive at this point. comanche dedicated mars colony They might but lamens the people who buy those cars nowadays don't like buying cars without names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ωhm Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Replace it with the Paleface Limited Edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Jeep Karen edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jesse J said: They might but lamens the people who buy those cars nowadays don't like buying cars without names I would love to see them have names too, but if you think about it, lots of manufacturers have been having letter/number names for years (Mercedes, BMW, some Subarus). I'm genuinely curious as to how this unfolds though. Jeep and the Cherokee nation will come up with some sort of phase-out and let the vehicles run for a few years before changing their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, eaglescout526 said: Jeep Karen edition. That thought crossed my mind 1 minute ago, Ωhm said: Replace it with the Paleface Limited Edition. Don't say that! That shows white privilege! (I was extra heavy on the sarcasm there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Our reactions to this change: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad R Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Might be looking for some licensing money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, 89 MJ said: I would love to see them have names too, but if you think about it, lots of manufacturers have been having letter/number names for years (Mercedes, BMW, some Subarus). I'm genuinely curious as to how this unfolds though. Jeep and the Cherokee nation will come up with some sort of phase-out and let the vehicles run for a few years before changing their name. yeah but those models don't sell amazingly. definetly not 40% of your sales money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 It's all so weird. I am glad I am into old jeeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Meh. It's just a name. It doesn't affect what the vehicle is or how it works. It also doesn't affect the vehicles that have already been produced. And it doesn't change the fact that the current Cherokee and Grand Cherokee are entirely different than they were in the 80s and 90s. Change it. Keep it the same. Doesn't matter one iota to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 If we have to stop using the name of Indian tribes, then we have to change the name of: Delaware, Indiana, N&S Dakota, Illinois, as well as many other place names, cities and counties. When will this all end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, derf said: Meh. It's just a name. It doesn't affect what the vehicle is or how it works. It also doesn't affect the vehicles that have already been produced. And it doesn't change the fact that the current Cherokee and Grand Cherokee are entirely different than they were in the 80s and 90s. Change it. Keep it the same. Doesn't matter one iota to me. agreed. 53 minutes ago, 87MJTIM said: If we have to stop using the name of Indian tribes, then we have to change the name of: Delaware, Indiana, N&S Dakota, Illinois, as well as many other place names, cities and counties. When will this all end? Good question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCWO Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 As a person with no Native American heritage, but being a bit of a history buff. I can’t believe the world we are in now. Waiting until Polaris is told to stop using the Indian name for their motorcycle line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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