dellstopjeep Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So I am scoring a 8.8 with 4.10s and disc brakes already soa ready for a Comanche with u bolt eliminators for very cheap. With that being said I figure this Will put me at 6 inches of lift unfortunately. I am trying to keep this rig at 4 to 4.5 inches if at all possible. I did some searching but figured I would get some first hand experience from anyone who has tried to stay as low as possible soa. Thanks! Worst case scenario i change it to spring under but it seemed handy it was already setup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I am trying to keep this rig at 4 to 4.5 inches if at all possible. Not possible unless you can find an axle with 2" dia. or less tubes and use something like fiberglass mono leaf rear springs. :yes: A SOA lift using a real axle and leaf springs will net at least 5.5-6.5 inches over your current height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellstopjeep Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Bummer.... I was hoping I could maybe do a xj/mj hybrid and bring it down a inch or two. Maybe this axle will go for sale then Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Going SOA does lift it roughly 6", but you can add or subtract from that with the leafpack. As long as you keep your main leaf you can throw in all sort of flatter leafs. I've always wondered what the lift would be if you cut the eyes off an XJ pack and install them under an MJ main. :hmm: just checking, but did it come out of an MJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellstopjeep Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Going SOA does lift it roughly 6", but you can add or subtract from that with the leafpack. As long as you keep your main leaf you can throw in all sort of flatter leafs. I've always wondered what the lift would be if you cut the eyes off an XJ pack and install them under an MJ main. :hmm: just checking, but did it come out of an MJ? The 8.8 did yes. That's why I didn't want to hack it up for spring under. I The u bolt eliminators also provide lift so i think I'm gonna be hard pressed to keep this under 5 even using the xj leaves in place of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I believe 831xj over at naxja did a custom "lower" lift UBE with an 8.8. Any kits are going to get you above that, but with welding ability and such one could do it. basically you just need enough "height" to clear leaf spring center pin apparatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Track down some 70s 2wd Chevy springs and try them SOA. They're within 1" in total length, and the center pin hole was only 1" out, IIRC, so with an offset perch it would be the same. No, I have no idea how well it will work. My bagged out 2wd springs wound up being about the right height, so I never bothered to find such springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desbennett004 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1.5 to 2" of rake might not be that bad. If you keep it at 4.5 in the front and end up at 6" or less in the back I think it would be just fine. Sent from my SM-N900W8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBpunk Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 XJ shackles and 2wd leaf spring packs will bring you down. I've heard XJ shackles have some binding issues though but no experience with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Sliders will drop you even lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I got 5.5" with 2wd leafs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellstopjeep Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 I was thinking maybe trying to round up some 2wd xj spring to see where it puts me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerial Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Sliders will drop you even lower This^. Sliders eliminate stuff grabbing your shackles. I feel they also give a better ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So who makes leaf spring sliders for the MJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBpunk Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Maybe something like these that can be welded in some how. Not sure though. Looks pretty dangerous to me but meeh to each his own. http://liquidironindustries.com/Liquid-Iron-Industries-Universal-Slider-Box-Kit.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I don't think anyone makes a direct fit set mj specific. Most buy kits like above.... Or fab their own They are not new.....the idea has been around as long as leaf springs.....its retro - tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 They are not new.....the idea has been around as long as leaf springs.....its retro - tech They're an idea that deservedly went out of style because they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 To each his own.... I like mine...they allow the spring to work smoother and tighter ...in a pure liner motion like they should...not choppy because of the arch of the shackle and with modern polymers they last forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 To each his own.... I like mine...they allow the spring to work smoother and tighter ...in a pure liner motion like they should...not choppy because of the arch of the shackle and with modern polymers they last forever... Do you have sliders on your MJ? Would love to see some pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellstopjeep Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 I think this thread convinced me not to go soa. I think after I try multiple things I will still be to tall and not happy with the height I get. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBpunk Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 You can always leave the SOA perches incase you decide to do it later. They're cheap enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989 comanche mj Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I have done several, on my yj and mjs, even put one in my zj. The MJ I cut and ground down aftermarket mounts so they sit on top of the 8.8 axle. As low as you can go. I even yanked out the factory bottom leaf. Even with the stock original springs my front axle has 5.5 springs and 1 3/4 spacers to put it slightly nose down. Looked dorky with 33s so I put on 35s. Another MJ I have I did spring under, and had to use a add a leaf and shackles to just get it high enough to match the front with 1 3/4 inch spacers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpyo Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 XJ shackles and 2wd leaf spring packs will bring you down. I've heard XJ shackles have some binding issues though but no experience with them. Not trying to hijack but I'm in a similar situation and was thinking of trying XJ shackles to minimize the SOA lift. Has anyone tried these who can provide feedback on their effectiveness and fitment afterwards? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 minimal gain while having the threat of an inverted shackle binding up after full droop. you need flatter leafs to get less lift. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpyo Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 minimal gain while having the threat of an inverted shackle binding up after full droop. you need flatter leafs to get less lift. :thumbsup: So.... I'm not planning to wheel my MJ post lift, I've had my fill of 4wheeling in my XJ and the MJ is more of a project / road vehicle so if I never fully droop would I still run the risk of a bind? Just thinking out loud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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