JeepFanactic Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I am looking to replace the factory control arms. I am in the process of lifting my MJ 3 inches. Any suggestions on what I should use? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I'd go aftermarket, fixed are fine but adj. is better. Otherwise if you can find a decent pair of WJ lowers, they only need a small amount of work to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I bought fixed RE ones. They do what I want. If I wanted better performance for off road use it would probably buy the TMR ones with Johnny Joints on each end, but they're expensive and those joints don't last like an OEM style bushing. You need to define want you intend for the truck to do before I could give you a better answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepFanactic Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 I bought fixed RE ones. They do what I want. If I wanted better performance for off road use it would probably buy the TMR ones with Johnny Joints on each end, but they're expensive and those joints don't last like an OEM style bushing. You need to define want you intend for the truck to do before I could give you a better answer. Basically the truck is going to see light off road use. Also this is my first time doing all the work on my MJ so this a huge learning experience. So I would like to keep it simple if possible. Thank again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpyo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Basically the truck is going to see light off road use. Also this is my first time doing all the work on my MJ so this a huge learning experience. So I would like to keep it simple if possible. Thank again I'd recommend reviewing the DIY Master Index as it has a great set of links for resources on everything from basics to advanced here: http://comancheclub.com/topic/48710-diy-projects-writeups-master-search-index/ There's also a link to a good table of control arm lengths based on lift. If you go with adjustable's you can tune your control arms to these specs: http://comancheclub.com/topic/28233-lift-vs-control-arm-length-table/ Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepman Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Go WJ arms as they are Cheap and Easy to install plus they still have that stock feel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSimon Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Read, read, and read some more. There is literally an endless supply of information on the web. And then, after it all completely confuses you ..... just do something and see how it goes. After all, there is no perfect choice. If you are new to modifying Jeeps, the best way to learn is to DO. No amount of internet reading can replace real world experience. But with all that said, I'd recommend searching the classifieds for a set of used adjustable lower AND upper arms. Being able to dial in your caster angle helps with road manners a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepFanactic Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 Go WJ arms as they are Cheap and Easy to install plus they still have that stock feel... Will WJ arms work with a 3 inch lift? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Go WJ arms as they are Cheap and Easy to install plus they still have that stock feel...Will WJ arms work with a 3 inch lift? Thanks They aren't any longer. They're better in every other way though. So yeah, you can use them, but they're a bit short for 3" lift, but you can buy a factory style caster shims (and the forks if you break the studs off them) and shim to get the correct caster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 If you're going with aftermarket arms I would recommend the JKS J-Axis control arms. I have them on my MJ and they are BEEFY, rebuildable, made here in the U.S and use the factory rubber bushings for comfort and serviceability. I'm not in business with them in any way, but I believe if youre going to replace suspension, steering or brake components stick with either OEM or companies with seriously good reputations, just my 2 pennies worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepFanactic Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 If you're going with aftermarket arms I would recommend the JKS J-Axis control arms. I have them on my MJ and they are BEEFY, rebuildable, made here in the U.S and use the factory rubber bushings for comfort and serviceability. I'm not in business with them in any way, but I believe if youre going to replace suspension, steering or brake components stick with either OEM or companies with seriously good reputations, just my 2 pennies worth. Thank you....Wow these things are crazy expensive compared to other brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 If you're going with aftermarket arms I would recommend the JKS J-Axis control arms. I have them on my MJ and they are BEEFY, rebuildable, made here in the U.S and use the factory rubber bushings for comfort and serviceability. I'm not in business with them in any way, but I believe if youre going to replace suspension, steering or brake components stick with either OEM or companies with seriously good reputations, just my 2 pennies worth. Thank you....Wow these things are crazy expensive compared to other brands. Yes they are, I would try the WJ arms and adjust the caster ( if you actually need to) with shims first. they're fully boxed, have a dip in them to clear bigger tires and should be readily available cheaply at your local junk yard, good luck :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambeezy Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 If you're going with aftermarket arms I would recommend the JKS J-Axis control arms. I have them on my MJ and they are BEEFY, rebuildable, made here in the U.S and use the factory rubber bushings for comfort and serviceability. I'm not in business with them in any way, but I believe if youre going to replace suspension, steering or brake components stick with either OEM or companies with seriously good reputations, just my 2 pennies worth. Since he's just going 3", can't he use the J-Link control arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 If you're going with aftermarket arms I would recommend the JKS J-Axis control arms. I have them on my MJ and they are BEEFY, rebuildable, made here in the U.S and use the factory rubber bushings for comfort and serviceability. I'm not in business with them in any way, but I believe if youre going to replace suspension, steering or brake components stick with either OEM or companies with seriously good reputations, just my 2 pennies worth.Since he's just going 3", can't he use the J-Link control arms? Yes he should be able to use them without any issues, there's tons of great options out there, I would have personally gone the WJ arm route though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambeezy Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 If you're going with aftermarket arms I would recommend the JKS J-Axis control arms. I have them on my MJ and they are BEEFY, rebuildable, made here in the U.S and use the factory rubber bushings for comfort and serviceability. I'm not in business with them in any way, but I believe if youre going to replace suspension, steering or brake components stick with either OEM or companies with seriously good reputations, just my 2 pennies worth.Since he's just going 3", can't he use the J-Link control arms? Yes he should be able to use them without any issues, there's tons of great options out there, I would have personally gone the WJ arm route though. Any reason (other than price) to go WJ? I'm trying to learn about lift kits and what's all required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 They're fully boxed ( Stronger ) and they have a bend that if I'm not mistaken allows for bigger tires without rubbing, there may be more advantages that I'm not aware of but there was a thread started not too long ago by one of the members here that installed them in his MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepFanactic Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 If you're going with aftermarket arms I would recommend the JKS J-Axis control arms. I have them on my MJ and they are BEEFY, rebuildable, made here in the U.S and use the factory rubber bushings for comfort and serviceability. I'm not in business with them in any way, but I believe if youre going to replace suspension, steering or brake components stick with either OEM or companies with seriously good reputations, just my 2 pennies worth.Since he's just going 3", can't he use the J-Link control arms? Yes he should be able to use them without any issues, there's tons of great options out there, I would have personally gone the WJ arm route though. What are the other options that are compare to the JKS control arms? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambeezy Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 They're fully boxed ( Stronger ) and they have a bend that if I'm not mistaken allows for bigger tires without rubbing, there may be more advantages that I'm not aware of but there was a thread started not too long ago by one of the members here that installed them in his MJ. Stronger than the Links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 They're fully boxed ( Stronger ) and they have a bend that if I'm not mistaken allows for bigger tires without rubbing, there may be more advantages that I'm not aware of but there was a thread started not too long ago by one of the members here that installed them in his MJ.Stronger than the Links? They're stronger than the stock channel arms. Not stronger than probably any of the aftermarket ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepFanactic Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 They're fully boxed ( Stronger ) and they have a bend that if I'm not mistaken allows for bigger tires without rubbing, there may be more advantages that I'm not aware of but there was a thread started not too long ago by one of the members here that installed them in his MJ.Stronger than the Links? They're stronger than the stock channel arms. Not stronger than probably any of the aftermarket ones. Are there any other decent aftermarket arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambeezy Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 They're fully boxed ( Stronger ) and they have a bend that if I'm not mistaken allows for bigger tires without rubbing, there may be more advantages that I'm not aware of but there was a thread started not too long ago by one of the members here that installed them in his MJ.Stronger than the Links? They're stronger than the stock channel arms. Not stronger than probably any of the aftermarket ones. Are there any other decent aftermarket arms? Rubicon Express makes a good product. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Rubicon Express makes a good product. Link I have those but just with the "OEM style" poly bushings. I don't care if it flexes amazing, I just want it to last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepman Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Not sure why people think aftermarket tubular replacement arms are any longer then stock because they are not unless they are adjustable and the benefits to aftermarket arms is the tubular design which is stronger and easier to swap bushings, yes you get a little more droop out of the tubular arms but that's because the tube is lower down closer to the centerline of the bushing then the OE arms are... The main reasons I mention the WJ arms: - Cheap - easy to get - come with bushings installed - offset with a bend to fit larger wheels with stock or aftermarket rims - stronger then OE U channel I personally have never run them but have sold lots to people that want a quick cheap option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBpunk Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just google "Cherokee adjustable control arms" and you'll get a ton of resultsCurrent flavor of the week is Core4x4 stage twoThere's also ironman4x4 fabrication, metalcloak, Iron rock off road, rusty's (wouldn't suggest it) and rough country to name a few. All will give the same benefits as WJ arms just adjustable. If you're tight on fund go with new WJ arms. I'm running them on 3.5 inch lift now to clear my 31x10.5s on stock wheels. They're not hard to install but does take a bit of grinding and some words not suitable for small children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Not sure why people think aftermarket tubular replacement arms are any longer then stock because they are not unless they are adjustable and the benefits to aftermarket arms is the tubular design which is stronger and easier to swap bushings, yes you get a little more droop out of the tubular arms but that's because the tube is lower down closer to the centerline of the bushing then the OE arms are... Most of them are longer... Do your homework before buying to ensure you're getting the right ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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