madog7200 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I just bought some walmart brand leds for the front running lamps and the front turn signals. Now my blinkers don't work. Hazards work fine and brake lamps are fine but no blinkers front or rear. I have been running the sylvania leds in the rear for some time now with no problems. I think i remember reading something about this problem on here before but I can't find what I'm looking for. If anyone has any ideas or knows a good link that would help me out it would be greatly appreciated! Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVPete Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It is quite possible that you require a new turn signal flasher relay and hazard flasher relay using LED's in all turn signal lamp sockets. There isn't enough electrical load with LED's to make a normal relay work. With a little googling or checking on amazon you can find a flasher relay that is LED compatible. They will run about $13. If you haven't done so yet, recommend you put the incandescent bulbs back in the front (or rear) turn signal locations and confirm your turn signals return to normal operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 SV Pete is correct. The turn signal flasher is load sensitive, and the LEDs don't use enough current to make it flash. Get a flasher that's rated for trailer towing -- those aren't load sensitive and should work with the LEDs. (I think.) Any of these marked "Variable Load" should work: http://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/turn-signal-flasher?filterByKeyWord=turn+signal+flasher&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog7200 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Thanks guys I'll get this figured out this weekend Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog7200 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 SV Pete is correct. The turn signal flasher is load sensitive, and the LEDs don't use enough current to make it flash. Get a flasher that's rated for trailer towing -- those aren't load sensitive and should work with the LEDs. (I think.) Any of these marked "Variable Load" should work: http://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/turn-signal-flasher?filterByKeyWord=turn+signal+flasher&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false So I bought one flasher marked variable load that was listed and I put it in the spot on the top right of the fuse housing first and nothing was changed, so then I put it in the spot on the bottom left of the fuse housing and now I get anywhere from 0 to 4 flashes out of the passenger blinker with about a 1 full second pause in between flashes and thats it. The driver side does nothing, just very dimly lights up the green arrow on my dash solid green no flashes? Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Sounds like you might have some bad ground/bad connections. Since you just replaced the bulbs, the front turn signal bulb holders were in good shape? If not, you might need to replace them, if they can't be cleaned up. Another likely source for problems with the front lights is the harness connector. It is located at the lower driver side of the front header panel. Sort of in front of the air cleaner, or behind the front driver turn signal. It can be difficult to get to, Removing the air cleaner housing can help. I've actually removed the whole front header panel to get to it also. Once you pull the connector apart, you'll likely find it full of crud and corrosion. Clean it up. The individual pins are removable for cleaning, and I've found clean ones in the junkyard that I spliced in to replace especially bad ones on my harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVPete Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I assume everything worked properly before you put the LED's in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog7200 Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 Yeah no problems before the leds were installed Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 why not just go back to incandescent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVPete Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Agree with mikekaz1. Put the incandescent's back in the front (returning to original configuration before problem started) and confirm things return to normal. If all signals work properly, then the flasher relay is still the problem. What flasher relay did you buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog7200 Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 I bought this one, it was marked variable load on the back of the package, but like I said before I only bought one... could that be the issue? On another note the kid at o reilys was trying to talk me into the ballasts that you wire in, but if it comes to that I'll just go back to the incandescent... And I'd like to stay with the leds since I paid pretty good money for them but I'm not going to start splicing wires either, that's just opening myself up to more unnecessary problems in the future Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Adding the ballasts defeats part of the benefits of LEDs, which is much less resistance than other types of bulbs. If you have to add ballasts, then it's purely for looks. To each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 The EL12 should be the right ones. FWIW I have the EL12 in both positions and have LEDs in my front markers but incandescent everywhere else. And my flashers work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog7200 Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 The EL12 should be the right ones. FWIW I have the EL12 in both positions and have LEDs in my front markers but incandescent everywhere else. And my flashers work fine.I'll probably buy another matching flasher for the other location this weekend and see if that might fix the problem... if not I guess ill go back to the incandescents Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 The EL12 should be the right ones. FWIW I have the EL12 in both positions and have LEDs in my front markers but incandescent everywhere else. And my flashers work fine.I'll probably buy another matching flasher for the other location this weekend and see if that might fix the problem... if not I guess ill go back to the incandescents Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk That's not the problem. One flasher is for the turn signals, the other is for the hazard warning flashers. They operate independently. Do your hazards work with the LEDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog7200 Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 The EL12 should be the right ones. FWIW I have the EL12 in both positions and have LEDs in my front markers but incandescent everywhere else. And my flashers work fine.I'll probably buy another matching flasher for the other location this weekend and see if that might fix the problem... if not I guess ill go back to the incandescents Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk That's not the problem. One flasher is for the turn signals, the other is for the hazard warning flashers. They operate independently. Do your hazards work with the LEDs? Yes hazards work but no only a few right side turn signal flashes and no driver side signal flashes Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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