JEEP+MUD=FUN Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.m ... sus_xj_kit Do you guys think this is worth the money? I plan on mudding with my rig...... when I get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 how big of a tire are you looking to run? What are you doing for gears and axles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEEP+MUD=FUN Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 That's all still up in the air as I'm jeepless atm, I'm starting a wish list. I'm in the middle of a tranfer of duty stations and am figuring out how much money i want to spend on mods. I'm thinking around 35's just to throw a number out there. I want to be able to have full flex in case I trail ride as well. As for gears and axles, I'm not knowledgeable in those areas, so I would ask for help in what you all think would work best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 how's your budget look? There's a huge price difference between 33s on 5" and 35s on 8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEEP+MUD=FUN Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 :dunno: I would say I don't want to spend too much more than 5G for a complete trail/mud ready, although i know the lift/rockers/tires will be most of that budget, assuming the comanche i find is in fair shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche13 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 don't buy rusty's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEEP+MUD=FUN Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 why not? Poor quality. Do a search and you will see millions of posts with people bitching about Rusty's I have about 7.5" of lift on 37s FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 What i would do if I were to build another MJ: cheap 87+ 4.0L 2wd MJ (pick your poison: stick or auto) 4wd trans (AX-15 if stick) 231 t-case ~5" lift (including shocks) extra main leaf for the rear packs (or some sort of anti-wrap bar) YJ brake lines up front Dakota brake line for the rear used 33" tires used aftermarket rims (for less backspacing) 4.10 MJ/XJ front axle with the bigger 760 U-joints installed v8 ZJ tie-rod up front 4.10 Explorer 8.8 with disks and open diff (non-posi, so I can easily install a locker) 1.5" rim spacers for rear axle (good ones, not cheap ones) Aussie lockers for front and rear front shaft rear shaft (2wd shaft shortened to length) custom rollbar (a real one, welded to the frame) I'd probably add in a dual diaphram brake booster while I'm at it. I imagine I can do the whole thing for around 3 grand as long as the initial truck didn't need too much work and I can find the used parts at the local pull-a-part. If there's more budget allowed, I could see myself upgrading the gears to 4.88s and doing the work to properly fit 35s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 If I were to do it all over again, I would fix up my Comanche for DD duties, possibly mild lift (2"-3.5") with 31s. And build an XJ for a trail rig. If I were building a cheap rig for mudding, I would start with a 3/4 ton full size truck as a base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87mjdriver Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 kodiak, AK to alameda CA. your a coastie, for sure. welcome to the board. I am running with 6.5 rock krawler springs plus a 2 inch spacer. in the rear its a SAO with 2 inch longer shackles. 8.5 inches total with 35's= to much now that I have driven it for a while. yes a tall truck looks good, but the higher you go the more problems you have to deal with. ie drive shafts, steering angles, caster angles, general alignment issues. I am dropping mine at least 1 maybe 1.5 inches and doing cut out flares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 All the cool kids are building their rigs low and finding and stuffing big tires on them. If I were to do an MJ again, I'd do 3.5" RE Superflex kit and 33x10.50's. Dana 30 with a 44/8.8 and 4.56's. Why tall lifts suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Idgit should have been wearing his seat belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkbruin Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 My dream build: 91 or 92 mj 4.0/ax15 Soa on new metric ton leaf packs Ford hp44 front w/ tnt truss and brackets 4.56 gears and hi-steer 14 bolt rear, 4.56 stock gears, detroit, disk brake conversion, shaved High quality long arm t-case skid, custom arms. For $5k you can build one hell of a rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 there's nothing wrong with rusty's anymore, they seem to have persevered through that muck. however i won't sit here and argue their side, nor argue with you about why they suck so bad. my friends and i still use them for stuff regularly, and in GA you get your products next day (ups ground) 9 times out of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 8" lift is TOO MUCH unless you are going to run fullsize axles and 37's or bigger. and even then, people fit 37's on 6.5" with a bit of trimming and proper bumpstopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEEP+MUD=FUN Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 All good info, and yes i'm a coastie :wavey: . After hearing this I think I'll use a 5 at the largest. Thanks for your :help: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 37s with 6.5" is not some MINOR trimming... thats called removing the bedsides and fenders. i have 6.5" and worn out 35s and they scrub pretty bad. 6.5" is about right for 33s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 37s with 6.5" is not some MINOR trimming... thats called removing the bedsides and fenders. i have 6.5" and worn out 35s and they scrub pretty bad. 6.5" is about right for 33s 6.5" can clear 35's easy. I did it. And I think it was too tall, I wish I would have gone about 4.5". I plan on running 33's on my current XJ with 0-2" of lift. There are a lot of things you can do to fit a bigger tire other than lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I run 6.5" lift and 35" tires. It would be okay on the street, but for off road when the truck flexes a lot more I had to trim (quite agressively on the front) and still need to bump stop because the wheel well itself gets in the way. I agree that a 33" tire is perfect for a 6.5" lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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