mjeff87 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Trying to decide on whether I should SOA (doesn't that net like 5+ inches lift?) the MJ or stay SUA and replace the springpacks and use an AAL (for maybe 2" and spacer the front to match). Is a SOA too much lift for 31's?? Any pics would be helpful. Thanks, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Their are advantages and disadvantages to doing a SOA. To run 31's is it would look extremely funny. you should be able to clear 31's in the rear stock. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatchetMJ Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 it would look pretty silly to have 5/5.5" of lift with 31's IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabz Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I run 31's with no lift, If you want to keep 31's go no more than 3" with AAL that is a pretty good looking setup. if you go soa go with 33's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I happen to have a shot of my truck during the period between rolling out of the garage and getting the 33s (due to one of my new rims arriving bent). Jeep on! --Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 Yeeesh....that does look bad :D Think I'll stay SUA for now and go with the 31's (just need to bumpstop a bit). 33's may happen down the road, long after I stop worrying about keeping it "restored" (sorry Eagle!) Thanks all! Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernel Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 here's one more with 31's Image Not Found one with 33x10.5 bfg at Image Not Found i'm to cheap to get new tires for it until it become 4wd. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty Hunter Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 SOA, 5.5" coils, and 32" tires: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGHEEP Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 5.5"+ and 225s :lol: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedmj Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 On my first MJ, I ran 31s with a longer heavy duty shackle in the rear, got about an 1 out of it, and 2 inch spacer in the front , worked out great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I am new to this site, but I must say, LOL you all must have money to burn buying lifts and all. I run 31's on 15x8' with 3 inch back spacing. and have very minimal if any rubbing.... of course I have a swazaw to..... the posibilitys are endless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 perhaps they just like more ground clearance. Trust me when I say that these folks aren't a stranger to a Sawzall. There are some pretty extreme rigs on here, and they go places that a stock suspension truck couldn't. It's not just about tires, but articulation also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 There is a point where cutting more sheetmetal doesnt do you any good :shock: I have cut as much as I can off the front, now I rub on the inner fenders :roll: BTW I am rollings on 35's :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I understand the argument of articulation, but thoughs of us on a tight budget have to do what it take to survive.... for now Pingpong, where might I find a picture of your mj? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Not counting the transmission and transfercase (which I bought several years before the build), I actually *made* a little money on the build by parting out the 78 Bronco I had purchased for the axles. How's that for a budget-build? :D I've since passed that monetary mark with all the improvements I've made in the last year (rollbar, rocker guards, etc), but even then they were all built on a tight spending limit. Make friends with local welder owners and 4x4 enthusiasts, check out the classifieds on Jeep sites and ebay for used parts and tires, do extensive research (research is free :D ) on what parts you need to build the 4x4 you want ('cause the fastest way to waste money is to do something twice), have patience and stay focused. Most importantly, don't think that you need the absolute biggest tire you can find since costs go up practically exponentially with tire size. It's not always all about the lift, but rather bringing the truck back home under it's own power. Jeep on! --Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 true statments pete. if you don't mind me asking, rocker guards are among my list of upgrades, are your's custom of off the shelf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Custom. Rocker guards are easy to make (though not mine specifically). Take 2x2" 3/16" wall tube and cut your guards and the connections to the frame. Get your hands on some 3/16" plate (maybe 3x5" wide) to place between the 2x2 and the frame to spread out the forces. I did three connection bars per side. We have an extra foot of wheelbase over an XJ so I feel the third leg helps spread out the forces. Spreading out the forces is very important since our frames are made of sheetmetal. find yourself a skilled welder because welding thick metal to thin takes some experience. Some guys like the guards tucked up against the body, others prefer to be able to use the guards as a step when the truck is stuck in the mud or to keep tree trunks that much further from the paint. Also notice that I didn't mention bolting anythning to the pinch seam as many XJ guards do. I can't. There simply isn't any steel left. My rockers are held together with the bed liner I hit them with years ago. And even if I did have perfect rockers, I certainly wouldn't drill holes through them! :shock: Jeep on! --Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Pete I agree iwth your statement about bringing your jeep home in one piece :D But since I went to Tellico last April, I have learned (bought) a trailer and tow rig to make sure Imake it home under my own power :twisted: I also agree with you on welding your rock rails on. I have to remake, mine, cause I had used 3/8 self tappers to attacth mine, anf they have since pulled out :? I had used 4 per moutning plate, with 3 mounting plates per side. I also used a picnh seam mounting point. It is still in place and holding up well. The pinch seam mounting point also makes it easier to build them, and for mock up purposes. As for where to find pics of my rig http://community.webshots.com/user/cj7xjmj And here is where to find some video as well http://besrk.zippyvideos.com/gallery.z Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 If you're looking for the toughest guards possible, I cut holes and put the connection bars *through* my frame and have force-spreading plates on both sides of the frame. There are no welds to pry apart, no screws to pull out, the only way for the bars to move is if the connection bar itself bends. :D It was a little tricky to do, but I like overkill. :D Jeep on! --Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 why do people cut the beds of thier comanches? ive seen some that are cut from the cab back and some from the rear wheelwell back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Usually due to extensive rust but sometimes to reduce weight or to increase clearance on tight or rocky trails. Jeep on! --Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimore11 Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 The comanche I just bought has SOA 5" lift and BFG AT 31s I don't know how much the springs are sagging but seems fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Pete I like your through the frame design :D I also like the way you turned your tubing sideways. I almost did that, but since my rig was all ready damage in the lower rockers, I figured what for :? I cut my bed to add in the rear to add rear rock rails, plus the rear of my bed was bashed in pretty bad. The departure angle on the MJ's sucks to put it mildly. So if you go crawling, or trail riding protect the rear, with rails, and taillight guards. The local j-yards don't have any MJ's left with tailights cause of me :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I rotated the guards for the uniqueness of the look, the extra strength of the added weld bead and welds being in more than one plane, as well as it allowed me to tuck it up as close to the body as possible. Jeep on! --Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty Hunter Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Pete I also like the way you turned your tubing sideways. I hadn't noticed that at first glance, sweet :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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