mj-comanche Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 New here. Quick question though. I'm planning to piece together a 6 inch lift from scratch for my 86 comanche right now i know i atleast have to have this stuff -6.5 in coils -shocks all the way around -pitman arm -I'm doing a soa in the rear so i know i need the perches am I'm going to need control arms and a trac bar? Thanks for any answers Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 your gonna at least need new adjustable control arms, and ideally drop brackets or longarms. you will need a new tracbar, address the swaybar end links, brake lines, stock steering will suck, shocks all the way around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 What you will need totally depends on what kind of lift you do upfront. For the rear you will need Perches shocks Depending on intended purpose new flex line Front... Drop brackets and stock uppers and lowers work great for 6.5" of lift :brows: Then use a HD trac bar and mount ( I used Re's) For shocks get some DT 3000's in the 26" expanded. some jks bayonet eliminators 26" long brake lines This setup will give you perfect caster angle using stock shims. Just remember to limit your up and down travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Everything has been said above, except: drop the drop pitman arm. With a coil sprung suspension it is not needed, and it will most likely cause problems down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pioneer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I've been looking into the same thing, watch your gearing when you move to bigger tires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj-comanche Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 sooooo I'm a little confused. front. -lift coils -don't need a pitman arm??? -do i need a arms or not? -trac bar -a arm drop kit? rear. -perches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 how do you plan to use the truck? size of tire? how much budget do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJA814 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Your drag link and track bar need to be at the same angle. If you use a drop pitman arm, your angle will be different. This will cause bump steer. If your absolutely had to have a drop pitman arm (which you don't) you would have to drop the track bar frame mount down too. What are your plans for the truck? Mine is strictly a wheeling rig, and works fine with a full set of adj. arms and no drop brackets. I will be going with long arms in the future, but for now it works. But I don't break 40mph haha. Build on my truck: Front: 6.5" RC coils Adj UCA from RC Adj LCA from RC Adj trackbar from RC (not really thrilled with this one...I'd go for something beefier...it's a VERY important part) Redrilled bracket and extended hardlines for front brakes RC sway bar dicsos (used once...too much of a pain. I now run without sway bar. Again, not much street time) Used RE 6" shocks Rear: Perches Prop Valve Rod extension New rear hardlines (not needed, but watch out when placing the perches on top of the axle...movement of the lines may be required) Lowered mount for soft to hard brake line. New U-bolts If you re-use your shock mount plates, be sure to use both plates on top of the leafs Measure for custom application shocks. CHECK YOUR PINION ANGLES!! Thats about it. It would take more if I wanted to make this thing highway worthy, but I don't. That's why I have a DD capable of towing the MJ. It all depends on what you expect from the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj-comanche Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 its goin to be a farm use and a krawler. i have a chevy 1500 that ive already got lifted and such so i don't expect this thing to go over 50. I'm on a pretty small budget. I didnt want to have to put control arms on it. i just wanted to use coils, track bar and a simple soa in the rear. i know i keep repeating myself. can someone make me a list so i can see the simplest way i can make it work? i don't want to have to buy control arms, and i still don't understand the pitman arm. do i just completely get rid of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 you need a pitman arm, just keep the stock one on. you NEED a tracbar, shocks, coils. you have to address the control arm situation too. you could go with drop brackets and stock arms but i wouldnt trust the arms on the trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj-comanche Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 see i keep hearing that i need to get a new pitman arm and i didnt know if i did. so the stock one wil work with the lift? so tomorow when i go to order the parts i need to get... -coils -shocks -track bar -perches -and look into control arms or control arm drop kits? sorry i get really paranoid when doing my own lift stuff :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 why don't you just buy a decent kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 why don't you just buy a decent kit? thats what i would do to. then you know you will be getting all the things you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 why don't you just buy a decent kit? thats what i would do to. then you know you will be getting all the things you need. X2... Kit is the way to go. Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj-comanche Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 kinda what i was thinking.... but i don't really wanna pay the 900 bucks for the 6 inch lift from rough country. has anyone had any experience with the rocky road kit. i know they run about 500-600 dollars i believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 the rocky road kit is NOT a complete kit. you WILL need to buy more things on top of their "bargain" price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Rocky Road doesn't have a good rep around here... Try hellcreeksuspensions.com Tom offers a discount to CC members... Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj-comanche Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 I think that is what I'm going to go with. even though i really don't have the money to be doing it with my 1500 still being paid off. but i guess you gotta go big or go home :roll: thanks guys. i will talk to one of my friends at my local ORI tomorow and see what the rough country lift runs at the shop. thanks for helping the new guy out so much :wavey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 what are you doing for axle strength or gearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj-comanche Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 I'm going to run stock axles with 33/12.50 with 4.10s if they will fit and when i get a little extra money. for now i think it will all be just stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Know what you have for axles? Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 stock MJ axles don't really get along with 33x12s. try to be easy on the gas. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj-comanche Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 hmmmm. I'm not real sure. ive only had it for about 2 weeks. its in the process of getting swapped out for a chevy 283 small block v8. so i havent had a lot of time to figure a lot of that stuff out. how would i find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What is the stock drivetrain? Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj-comanche Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 sorry but i couldnt even tell ya. its got a heck of a drive shaft though. i know that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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