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I like the Renegade. My wife hates it. I think they look much better in person than in pictures. Talked to a guy in a non TH model at an interstate rest area and he said it has no problems overcoming a Kansas headwind. I also still like the Patriot. Haven't sat behind the wheel yet, but I think it will be like driving my wife's 220k mile Camry.

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I like the Renegade. My wife hates it. I think they look much better in person than in pictures. Talked to a guy in a non TH model at an interstate rest area and he said it has no problems overcoming a Kansas headwind. I also still like the Patriot. Haven't sat behind the wheel yet, but I think it will be like driving my wife's 220k mile Camry.

Having owned a Patriot for 2 years, they are junk. Clunky, and feel cheap. My guess is the the renegade is the same type of build.

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Having owned a Patriot for 2 years, they are junk. Clunky, and feel cheap. My guess is the the renegade is the same type of build.

I feel the same way about all new Jeeps, with the exception of the Compass since I haven't been in one.
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As the Compass is exactly the same as a Patriot you won't feel any difference. The even carry the same model designation of MK

 

I have a 2014 Patriot 4x4 as a DD. It is great on nasty winter roads and I get 24 MPG from a vehicle with as about much horsepower as a renix 4.0.Yet is almost the exact size of an XJ Cherokee and weighs more,  The big difference in the MK's  is that starting in '14 you could get an honest to goodness automatic transmission. The CVT used previously was junk in both longevity and performance. The 5-speed stick  was little better. The Autostick 6-speed auto was a game changer for this vehicle. In addition the 6-speed gives you everything the more expensive "off road freedom drive 2" does in a cheaper, more reliable, better performing package.  Is it a hard core wheeler? Hardly. But it does what was designed to do well. And remember such vehicles are needed to improve CAFE or else the brand will die.  Clunks? Feel Cheap? Maybe the previous ones but not the last couple of years of refreshed models. Mine is head and shoulders above my '12 Sonic and about on par with the '14 Traverse. The early models sucked but they have got it just about right as they are getting ready to kill it. And it is not an import made by one of the few companies with a worse reliability record the ChryCo. 

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I agree the new 6 speed auto supplied by Hyundai made those actually decent cars as compared to earlier models. Hyundai also uses a variant of the same world engine that is available in the Compatriot so I'm sure it was no big deal for Chrysler to get it to bolt up.

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If they would have made this combo from the start.... ChryCo has been/is more tied to Hyundai/Kia ( same company for those that haven't figured out it is like Chevy/Pontiac) then some might think through their various ownership/investment deals with Mitsubishi. Mitsu has invested in Hyundai over years. Hyundia licensed ( mostly outdated) technology from Mitsubishi who was in bed with Chrysler for decades . Kia actually come to them from the Ford/Mazda partnership. The early '90's car sold here as the Festiva was sold as both a Mazda and as Ford's version of the Escort in lower Asia when they claimed that the Escort was a "world car" available all over. 

 

But I digress....lol. ChryCo should have made the Patriot the way the 1/4/15 models are from the beginning. That Jatco CVT is and was a huge mistake.

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OK, a little off topic, but I have ask Gomorgo what his DD is. Maybe my eyes are getting old or maybe I've never seen one of whatever it is. And, maybe I have seen one and it's just my CRS is kicking in (again).

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It's a '96 Lada Niva. Designed by drunk Soviets in the '70's, assembled by drunk Russians. It features some heavily "borrowed" Fiat design elements, and was intended for duty on the roads of Siberia. It's also a case study in bare-bones 4x4's... It didn't even come with a radio.

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