Oddmodman Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I just bought a set of aluminum wheels, very nice, but the lug holes are slightly elongated (adjustable), so I want to know what angle of lug nuts would be best to use to cause the least damage possible, since the holes are straight through, no inherent angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 There is no such thing as elongated lug nut holes that I've ever heard of ... except wheels that have been drive with loose lug nuts and the holes damaged. A long, LONG time ago I had a set of aftermarket alloy wheels on a Javelin that used straight lug nuts. The holes were not elongated, and the lug nuts had straight shanks and washers for bearing on the face of the wheel. I have seen alloys that are universal fit -- the lug holes are in a removable, reversible insert. Orient them one way and you had a Ford bolt pattern, reverse them and you had a GM pattern. I haven't seen wheels like that for a very long time, either. Are your wheels "hub-centric"? If not ... don't use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I've seen them, they're "universal", so you can put them on anything with 5 lugs. They scare the hell out of me. You could not pay me to use those, especially if they're not hub centric. You wouldn't use tapered lug nuts on something that doesn't have a taper in the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddmodman Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 My lug holes look like...this: http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/meZA_th8orIxKXkqkUTXgvA.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyav8r Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 To me That looks more like a spacer than a wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddmodman Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Well the example IS a spacer lol. My wheel's lug holes look just like those though, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 No way would I use wheels like that on any roads with other vehicle traffic. They used to sell these universal wheels for utility trailers back in the day. I suppose you could run them off-road only so the only person you hurt will be yourself. Can you post a pic of these things? From the inner side to see if they are hub-centric? And if so, which hub are they concentric to? Bad idea mate............ Oh, and lol. :shake: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 You could not pay me enough to put those under any of my Jeeps. Can you return them and get your money back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddmodman Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Nope. I'll take a pic when I can. My camera sucks though. If I were to use them, I'd need those insert type things set for a jeep width? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacks Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Several of the major after market wheel manufacturers used to make wheels like that. Marketed under names like vari-fit etc. They came with a set of thick steel 'washers/inserts' one set had holes in the center of the washer, the other set had a hole closer to one end so the wheel could be used on 3 different 5 lug bolt patterns, most often, 4.5, 4.75, and 5". If you are set on using those rims, what you need is a set of the washers/inserts that were made for that brand of wheel. Hope that helps a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddmodman Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Well the way I look at it, I paid too much at 150, but these should be just fine with the right hardware, otherwise it probably wouldn't have been marketed in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCARENA Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 You should be fine with the correct hardware. Had this style rim on the muscles cars i used to own back in the early 80's. Never had an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMCJeepMJ Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I recall seeing some five-spoke style wheels made several decades ago with elongated lug holes to fit different vehicles. My thoughts are, if the elongations are divergent from the center, the wheel would not be able to shift around on the hub due to the placement of the lugs [and the associated torqued down lug nuts] keeping the wheels in place as one is driving... is this not a correct assumption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64 Cheyenne Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 :agree: Used to be common back in the day. Kind of like these http://www.ebay.com/itm/BULLET-STYLE-7-16-LUG-NUTS-MAG-SHANK-W-WASHERS-CRAGAR-SS-WESTERN-SET-OF-20-/130936198764?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e7c67d66c&vxp=mtr I'd run em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 :agree: Used to be common back in the day. Kind of like these http://www.ebay.com/itm/BULLET-STYLE-7-16-LUG-NUTS-MAG-SHANK-W-WASHERS-CRAGAR-SS-WESTERN-SET-OF-20-/130936198764?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e7c67d66c&vxp=mtr I'd run em Those are just the lug nuts, not the oblong inserts to keep the wheels located. Plus those lug nuts are bullet shaped, which is a bit strange. Even AutoZone has the correct lug nuts, but they don't seem to offer the correct inserts. The lug nuts look like these: If the manufacturer's name is stamped on the wheels anywhere, perhaps they are still in business and can provide the inserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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