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#1 Alexia

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:39 PM

I spent most of the weekend researching all the parts to go into this lift. Many I have done on my own MJ while building it. The intention of this lift is to be entirely complete, have good ride quality, flex well, and require no hacks to install. Most of the parts are bought from RockAuto.com. Suggestions and improvements are welcome!

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#2 87Warrior

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:53 PM

Neat worksheet/project you did there.

I would be a bit concerned about using the stock control arms though. Yes they do allow for decent flex, but the flex is obtained by twisting the metal of the arm. Add a bunch more twist caused by the longer springs (and shocks you buy) and I see serious metal fatigue.

#3 ftpiercecracker1

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:27 PM

Very nice, This will no doubt be a favorite DIY thread for many new and old comanche owners to come. This will definately be saved onto my desktop :yes: .
BTW how long did it take you to compose this lift recipie? research included, not just typing it up.

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#4 Alexia

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:51 PM

Neat worksheet/project you did there.

I would be a bit concerned about using the stock control arms though. Yes they do allow for decent flex, but the flex is obtained by twisting the metal of the arm. Add a bunch more twist caused by the longer springs (and shocks you buy) and I see serious metal fatigue.


The stress on the stock control arms will be reduced by the fact they are starting at the proper angle. This lift cost is a good starter and then the person can upgrade the control arms later.

Very nice, This will no doubt be a favorite DIY thread for many new and old comanche owners to come. This will definately be saved onto my desktop :yes: .
BTW how long did it take you to compose this lift recipie? research included, not just typing it up.


It was about eight hours of searching CC, NAXJA, and doing cross reference on RockAuto. A lot of time was just spent which sites sold the best product at the best price. Lots of companies make and sell spring perches, but Ruff Stuff has the best at a great price. I need to go back and put in links of where to buy each part.
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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:51 PM

Good solid lift summary Alexis, and fine work as per your usual. :cheers: One minor comment though; M14 (or 9/16" dia depending on the year) fine thread were the factory size used for the non-standard HD U-bolts and long nuts on the MJs w. D44s and the towing package option. This size also does not require drilling out the slotted holes in the spring plates. 5/8" dia. U-bolts are kind of an overkill IMO and are really not needed.

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#6 cody4359

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:00 AM

5/8" U-bolts are kind of an overkill IMO and are really not needed.


:agree: :cheers:
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#7 hornbrod

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:09 AM

Forgive me for editing your post above Cody (in RED) but I assume this is what you meant. :cheers:

If I'm wrong, let me know.

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1991 JeepLogo2.jpg Comanche LWB, AW4, HESCO 4.6L Stroker, 4.10 D44 Trac-Lok,
2.5" lift, Power everything, Ford Explorer rear disk brakes, starseed_zps6deb0e15.gifCHROME FREAKstarseed_zps6deb0e15.gif ..


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:39 AM

having a mod edit your quotes takes all the fun out of being a smartass :rotf:
NOT trail ready.....yet viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27400
87 long armed viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31364&p=312579#p312579
Union- work smarter live better

I pretty much just gave up, and faced the fact that I will have a built in sweater vest


#9 hornbrod

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:48 AM

:yes: Yes, but you are a knowledgeable smartass. Big difference. :thumbsup:

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1991 JeepLogo2.jpg Comanche LWB, AW4, HESCO 4.6L Stroker, 4.10 D44 Trac-Lok,
2.5" lift, Power everything, Ford Explorer rear disk brakes, starseed_zps6deb0e15.gifCHROME FREAKstarseed_zps6deb0e15.gif ..


#10 Alexia

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:42 AM

Good solid lift summary Alexis, and fine work as per your usual. :cheers: One minor comment though; M14 (or 9/16" dia depending on the year) fine thread were the factory size used for the non-standard HD U-bolts and long nuts on the MJs w. D44s and the towing package option. This size also does not require drilling out the slotted holes in the spring plates. 5/8" dia. U-bolts are kind of an overkill IMO and are really not needed.


Ruff Stuff's D44 Simple Swap Kit comes with 5/8" bolts which is why I mentioned it in the document. My updated version I am working on has part numbers for that kit. The nice part about going to 5/8" is that since they can be torqued to over 200 foot pounds it is unlikely they will ever stretch making them much more friendly for retorquing in the future.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 06:16 AM

Great write up. I will definitely be using this as a reference.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:42 PM

:yes: Yes, but you are a knowledgeable smartass. Big difference. :thumbsup:


yep, overkill is underrated :fs2:
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87 long armed viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31364&p=312579#p312579
Union- work smarter live better

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:49 PM

Where did u find RE coil springs that cheap for both? The cheapest i have found was 175 for a pair.

#14 Alexia

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:12 AM

Where did u find RE coil springs that cheap for both? The cheapest i have found was 175 for a pair.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:35 AM

Thanks Alex. Sweet deal.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:32 PM

Nice write up! :thumbsup:

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:22 PM

Just curious, has this lift kit setup been finalized? All the details been ironed out?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:35 AM

Just curious, has this lift kit setup been finalized? All the details been ironed out?


Pretty much finalized. I do not have the engine and transmission in the truck yet so the front end is sitting ridiculously high. The price of this lift might go up just a little if front spring spacers or 6.5" springs are required.
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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:06 AM

Actually, I just added links in to buy the pieces where I found them and some extra information.
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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:57 PM

6.5? I thought this was a lift for 5.5?

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