Blue XJ Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I picked up a set of 99 doors with power windows locks mirrors and heated mirrors. I am going to be swapping them onto my 88 MJ with manual doors right now. I spent a few hours in the garage with the FSM and figured out the wiring. You have to create a relay circuit that reverses polarity. I will sketch up what I did and post it later, but here is the wiring. I'll made it a nicer schematic later, but for now, here's the connections. In order to get it to work properly, I had to cut the pink/black and orange/black wires on the passenger door that ran from the lock motor to the passenger switch. Its pin 1 and 5 in the large connector. If you don't cut these two wires, it will pop a fuse every time the door lock is tried. And for the relay, here is the pin out, I'll make a diagram when I get time. Any other wires in the doors were not used. The drivers door has extra wires for the rear door windows. And the passenger door has extra wires for the remote keyless entry (RKE) module that I did not use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 I found the pin out of the connectors from JP's website, they did a very lacking write up on the swap. MODERN DOOR SWAP Driver (left) 8-way Cavity Circuit Gauge Color Description 1 P71 20 YL Left power mirror (up) 2 P76 20 OR/YL Left power mirror (down/right) 3 M1 18 PK Fused ignition b (+) 4 P74 20 DB Right power mirror (right) 5 Z1 12 BK Ground 6 P75 20 DB/WT Left power mirror (right) 7 P72 20 YL/BK Right power mirror (up) 8 O1 14 YL Master switch window lock out Driver (left) door Cavity Circuit Gauge Color Description 1 Q28 14 DB/WT Master switch to right rear motor (down) 2 Q18 14 GY/BK Master switch to right rear motor (up) 3 Q16 14 BR/WT Master switch to right front window motor (up) 4 Q17 14 DB/VT Master switch to left rear motor (up) 5 Q11 16 LB Master switch to left front motor (up) 6 Q26 14 VT/WT Master switch to right front motor (down) 7 P35 18 OR/VT Master switch to power door lock relay 8 Z1 12 BK Ground 9 F81 12 TN Master switch to power feed (switched positive) 10 Q27 14 RD/BK Master switch to left rear motor (down) 11 P36 18 PK/VT Master switch to power door unlock relay 12 Q21 16 WT Master switch left front motor Passenger (right) 8-way Cavity Circuit Gauge Color Description 1 P59 20 LB/RD Remote keyless entry lock control 2 P55 20 DB Remote keyless entry unlock control 3 P35 20 OR/VT Power door lock relay 4 F81 12 TN Power window switch feed (switched positive) 5 F35 16 RD Power door lock relay feed 6 Z1 12 BK Ground 7 P36 18 PK/VT Power door unlock relay 8 G26 20 LB Door ajar key in Passenger (right) door Cavity Circuit Gauge Color Description 1 P34 16 PK/BK Power door lock (unlock) 2 Q22 16 VT Right front power window motor (down) 3 Q26 14 VT/WT Master switch right front window motor (down) 4 Q16 14 BR/WT Master switch right front window motor (up) 5 P33 18 OR/BK Power door lock (lock) 6 7 8 9 Q12 16 BR Right front power window motor (up) 10 Q1 14 YL Master switch window lock out 11 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 I tore into the doors today using the pinouts listed above. The main thing that is confusing me now is the door lock relay circuit, I can't find any info on it. Anyone recall seeing this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilermaker Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Not a direct answer to your question...but would a link to the '99 FSM help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 I downloaded that last night, It has what I need in it, but I can't figure it out. Its a little more confusing that what I can figure out, I'm definately not an electrical person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 PM JohnnyC and ask him if he can help you. I know he has done it to his. There was a write up in JP about it too. You can see a pic of Johnny's best side in it, lol! EDIT HERE IT IS. http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/body/154_0901_jeep_cherokee_xj_door_upgade/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Good deal, thanks. I read the JP one, but they leave out all the important stuff. I'll give him a pm thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyc Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 PM JohnnyC and ask him if he can help you. I know he has done it to his. There was a write up in JP about it too. You can see a pic of Johnny's best side in it, lol! Thanks Bo for noticing my best side. ;) As I replied to Blue XJ's PM, we never did get the power door locks to work right. That was a long day at Trasborg's house and it was dark. And were tired and hungry. Pete later figured out that we needed to add some relays to make the door locks work. I can unlock the doors with either switch, but I can't lock them. We still haven't gotten around to fixing that yet. Maybe it's time to harrass Pete about it. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Well, I looked at it while at work today and I think I found out how to wire yup the relay circuit so the door locks work. And I think I can use the same circuit for the windows, it switches the polarity coming out of the relays to reverse the motors. I think I need to put a couple diodes in the circuit and I should be able to hook both door switches to the same circuit for the locks without backing everything. I'm going to try it this weekend. If it works, I'll do a full write up with a wiring diagram and pictures. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnjim Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 PM JohnnyC and ask him if he can help you. I know he has done it to his. There was a write up in JP about it too. You can see a pic of Johnny's best side in it, lol! Thanks Bo for noticing my best side. ;) As I replied to Blue XJ's PM, we never did get the power door locks to work right. That was a long day at Trasborg's house and it was dark. And were tired and hungry. Pete later figured out that we needed to add some relays to make the door locks work. I can unlock the doors with either switch, but I can't lock them. We still haven't gotten around to fixing that yet. Maybe it's time to harrass Pete about it. :D I didn't get my PL's working yet either. I'm trying to do everything with just an 8-wire harness tho, I pulled out the (01') XJ harness in one piece, and didn't want to cut the door harness out of that, so I'm using an aftermarket (8-wire harness) connector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 I went out and played with it tonight. The windows are working properly and I got 1 door to lock, but now it won't unlock or re-lock. My relay harness works perfect, energize one relay it provides +12v, energize the other relay is provides -12v. I just need to get it working with the stock door switch and I'll be all set. I thought I had it wired how the FSM showed, but I guess it was wrong since it didn't work. I'll give it another go tomorrow. Its close if I got one door to lock, I'm just missing something simple I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I went out and played with it tonight. The windows are working properly and I got 1 door to lock, but now it won't unlock or re-lock. My relay harness works perfect, energize one relay it provides +12v, energize the other relay is provides -12v. I just need to get it working with the stock door switch and I'll be all set. I thought I had it wired how the FSM showed, but I guess it was wrong since it didn't work. I'll give it another go tomorrow. Its close if I got one door to lock, I'm just missing something simple I think. Ain't it fun? :D I too just did the windows and didn't bother with the locks. Figured if I was too lazy to reach across and lock the door, I'd better give it up. But it's the same circuit and you are on the right track; + and - 12V to the window motor, + and - 12V to the lock solenoids. The factory schematic is hard to follow; for me it's easier to build it on the bench and smoke test everything first. If the drivers side is fine and the problem is the lock on the passenger's side, you need an additional parallel cross-body feed wire from the trigger wire of your lock relay coil to the passenger side lock solenoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 Well, I got the door locks to work tonight. Its actually pretty simple once you realize what the door switch circuit does. Its actually a ground switch instead of a power switch. I plan on making a wiring schematic for it this weekend and posting it here. I'm going to try and get the mirrors wired up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoTGoD Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Well, I got the door locks to work tonight. Its actually pretty simple once you realize what the door switch circuit does. Its actually a ground switch instead of a power switch. I plan on making a wiring schematic for it this weekend and posting it here. I'm going to try and get the mirrors wired up as well. :bowdown: I have 00 XJ doors that are going on in the spring. Your write-up will be mucho appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 I updated the first post with the wiring that I used. There are some wires in each door that weren't used, I just cut them short and taped them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRF136N Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yee haw, my turn! For as much as I want the '97+ doors, I don't want to be running around with mis-matched paint while I wait for a paint job, so for now I am just going to put the '97+ interrior door panels onto my '87 doors that have '94 electrical in them (still with me? :rotf: ) At least your writeup will help me in my attempts, thanks! I hate electrical :fs1: But, I did score some nice door panels at p-n-p with drivers door switches from a 2-door, and I got all the door wiring out of the '99 to work with :banana: Thanks again! Let the fun begin... -James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 drivers door switches from a 2-door, -James Thats what my next mission is, to find a set of the switches from a 2 door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Chief Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Sorry to bring up an old thread.... I found some 97+ sport doors with manual windows and locks, but with power mirrors. My 87 didn't come with power mirrors. Anyone have a wiring diagram that shows how to wire power mirrors from scratch? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Push the glass with your fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Chief Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Push the glass with your fingers. I would and will, but I think my wife would like the luxury of moving the side mirrors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMJ1991 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 do you have the write up on it? I'm looking to do the same since its a pain finding manual doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 What write-up is needed? All of the wiring connections are listed in my first post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Can you repost the image that showed the relay wiring, please? I have a set of doors from a 2000 XJ (power everything) that I want to put on my 91 MJ. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzimm Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 8 hours ago, EUREKA said: Can you repost the image that showed the relay wiring, please? I have a set of doors from a 2000 XJ (power everything) that I want to put on my 91 MJ. Thanks Use the add-on for whatever browser you are using, that is described and linked in this thread. It will then show the pictures above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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