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#1 MiNi Beast

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 02:19 AM

Found this over at Pirate 4x4 and thought it would be nice for this site.
http://www.pirate4x4... ... dana 60 xj

or here I posted this one before... http://www.theranger... ... guide.html

Good axle info from pirate 4x4...
FRONT AXLES
D27 Front Axle:
Full Floating
Vehicles: '66-'71 CJ-5 and CJ-6; '63-'70 Wagoneer; '67-'71 C-101 Jeepster
Ring Gear: 7.2"
Stock Gearing:
Axleshaft Spline: 10
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.13"
Axle Joint: Spicer 260X
Knuckle: Closed
Brakes: Drum 10" 11"
Weakness: Weak axle for upgrades, low spline count, weak carrier
Width: 51" (CJ and Jeepster), 57.5" (Wagoneer)
Wheel Bolt: 5x5.5"
Max Recommended Tire Size: 31"

D30 Front Axle:
Full/Semi Floating
Vehicles: From ’72 CJ-5, CJ-6, CJ-7, CJ-8, YJ, TJ, XJ, ZJ, C104, WJ
Ring Gear: 7.125”, 7.33” (TJ/WJ Only)
Stock Gearing: 3.07, 3.54 (3.55), 3.73, 4.10 (4.11)
Axleshaft Spline: 27
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.16”, 1.193” (TJ/WJ Only)
Axle Joint: Spicer 260X (pre ’95.5), Spicer 297/760X (post ’95.5), CV & 760 U-Joint (TJ/WJ)
Knuckle: Open
Brakes: Drum 11” (pre ’76), Disc (post ’76)
Weakness: 260X U-joint; YJ Vacuum motor fails; standard CV problems
Width: 51” (’72-’75 CJ, C-104), 53” (’76-’81 CJ), 56” (’82-’86 CJ), 60.5” (TJ, YJ, XJ, WJ)
Wheel Bolt: 5x5.5” (CJ/C-104), 5x4.5” (others)
Max Recommended Tire Size: 35”

AAM 790 Front Axle
Semi Floating
Vehicles: '05 and later WK
Ring Gear: 7.87"
Stock Gearing:
Axleshaft Spline:
Axleshaft Diameter:
Axleshaft Joint: CV
Knuckle: Open
Brakes: Disc
Weakness: Limited modification ability, small ring gear
Width:
Wheel Bolt:
Max Recommended Tire Size: 32"

D44 Front Axle:
Full/Semi Floating
Vehicles: ’57-’65 FC-170; ’63-’70 Gladiator; '67-'79 1/2 & 3/4 Ton Ford Pickups; ’71-’87 J-Series; ’71-’91 Wagoneer; '72-'93 1/2 & 3/4 Ton Dodge Pickups; '73-'79 1/2 & 3/4 Ton Chevy Pickups; ’74-’83 Cherokee; ’03-’06 Rubicon
Ring Gear: 8.5”
Stock Gearing: Many
Axleshaft Spline: 19 (pre ’71), 30 (post ’71)
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.25” (19 spline), 1.31” (30 spline)
Axle Joint: Spicer 206X (pre ’73), Spicer 297/760C (post ’73)
Knuckle: Closed (pre ’73), Open (post ’73)
Brakes: Drum 11” (pre ’73), Disc (post ’73)
Weakness: 260X and 19 spline axleshafts
Width: 63” (FC-170), 57.5” (’71-’73 Wagoneer), 59” (’74 and later Wagoneer), 65.5” (J-Series), 60.5” (Rubicon), Full Width (Ford, Dodge, Chevy)
Wheel Bolt: (Varies)
Max Recommended Tire Size: 37”

D60 Front Axle:
Full Floating
Vehicles: ‘67-’69 Kaiser M-715; ‘72-‘93 3/4 & 1 Ton Dodge Pickups; ‘74-‘77 3/4 Ton Ford Pickups; ‘77-‘87 3/4 & 1 Ton Chevy Pickups; ‘78-‘79 1 Ton Ford Pickups
Ring Gear: 9.75”
Stock Gearing: 4.10, 4.56
Axleshaft Spline: 30
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.31”
Axle Joint: Unknown Spicer
Knuckle: Closed
Brakes: Drum 13”
Weakness: Metallurgically axleshafts inferior to modern metals
Width: 72.5” (M-715), Full Width (Ford, Dodge and Chevy)
Wheel Bolt: 6x8.25”
Max Recommended Tire Size: 42”


REAR AXLES
D35 Rear Axle:
Semi-floating (’85-’89), C-clip (’90 and later)
Vehicles: Most XJ; YJ; TJ (except Rubicon); ZJ; some WJ
Ring Gear: 7.562”
Stock Gearing: 3.07, 3.54 (3.55), 3.73, 4.10 (4.11)
Axleshaft Spline: 27
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.13”
Brakes: Drum 11”; Disc (later ZJ/WJ)
Weakness: Weak carrier & axleshafts
Width: 60.5”
Wheel Bolt: 5x4.5”
Max Recommended Tire Size: 33”

D44 Rear Axle:
Semi Floating
Vehicles (here we go…*long breath*): ’49-’65 6cyl Willy Wagons; ’49.5-’53 CJ-3A; ’53-’68 CJ-3B; ’50-’52 M-38; ’52-’57 M-38A1; ’53-’57 M-170; ’55-’75 CJ-5 & CJ-6; ’85.5-’86 CJ-7; ’58-’65 FC-150; ’57-’65 FC-170; ’63-’70 Wagoneer & Gladiator Pickup; ’67-’71 C-101 Jeepster; ’72-’73 C-104; ’71-’75 Wagoneer & ½-ton J-Series; ’74-’83 Cherokee; ’87-’91 Grand Wagoneer; Some ’86-’92 XJ and MJ; Some ’97-’06 TJ; ’99-’04 WJ; ’96-’98 ZJ
Ring Gear: 8.5”, 8.9” (WJ only )
Stock Gearing: Many, including 3.55, 3.73, 4.11
Axleshaft Spline: 10 (’49-’55), 19 (’56-’70.5), 30 (’70.5 and later)
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.193” (WJ/ZJ) 1.25” (10 and 19 Spline), 1.31 (30 Spline)
Brakes: Drum 9”, 10”, 11”; Disc (Rubicon, ZJ, WJ)
Weakness: 10 & 19 Spline, Some aluminum housings.
Width: 50.5” (up to ’75 CJ, FC, C-101, C-104), 54.5” (’85-’86 CJ), 57.5” (’63-’73 Wagoneer), 60.5” (XJ, MJ, TJ, ZJ, WJ), 65.5” (FSJ Cherokee, J-Series)
Wheel Bolt: Varies
Max Recommended Tire Size: 38"

D53 Rear Axle:
Semi Floating
Vehicles: '55-'65 Willys pickup; '63-'69 Gladiator; '57-'65 FC-170
Ring Gear: 9.25"
Stock Gearing:
Axleshaft Spline: 20
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.31"
Brakes: Drum 11"
Weakness: Hard to find parts, low spline
Width: 65.5" (Gladitaor), 63" (Others)
Wheel Bolt: 5x5.5"
Max Recommended Tire Size: 35"

D60 Rear Axle:
Semi/Full Floating
Vehicles: ‘67-‘69 1/2 & 3/4 Ton Ford Pickups; ’69-’87 J-2000/J-20; ‘72-‘93 3/4 Ton Dodge Pickups
Ring Gear: 9.75”
Stock Gearing 4.10, 4.56
Axleshaft Spline: 30
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.31”
Brakes: Drum 12”
Weakness:
Width: 65.5” (J-2000/J-20), Full Width (Ford, Dodge & Chevy)
Wheel Bolt: 8x6.5”
Max Recommended Tire Size: 42”

D70 Rear Axle:
Full Floating
Vehicles:’58-’68 FC-170 w/dual rear wheels; ’63-’68 J-3000 w/dual rear wheels; ’67-’69 M-715; CJ-10; '72-‘93 3/4 & 1 Ton Dodge Pickups; ‘76-‘77 3/4 Ton Ford Pickups; ‘77-‘87 1 Ton Chevrolet Pickups; ‘78-‘79 1 Ton Ford Pickups
Ring Gear: 10.5”
Stock Gearing: 4.10, 4.56
Axleshaft Spline: 23, 35
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.5”
Brakes: Drum 13”
Weakness: Poor parts availability
Width: 59” (FC & Pickup), 72” (M-715), Full Width (Ford, Dodge and Chevy)
Wheel Bolt: 6x7.25” (M-715), 8x6.5” (others)
Max Recommended Tire Size: 44”

AMC20 Rear Axle:
Semi Floating
Vehicles: ’76-’86 CJ; ’76-’91 Wagoneer and J-10
Ring Gear: 8.875”
Stock Gearing: 2.76, 3.07
Axleshaft Spline: 20
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.31”
Brakes: Drum 11”
Weakness: 2 piece axleshafts (CJ only), tubes spin, 20 spline
Width: 50.5” (’76-’81 CJ), 54.5” (’82-’86 CJ), 59” (Wagoneer), 65.5” (J-Series)
Wheel Bolt: 5x5.5” (CJ), 6x5.5” (Wagoneer and J-Series)
Max Recommended Tire Size: 33”-35”

Chrysler 8.25 Rear Axle:
C-clip
Vehicles: '91-'01 XJ
Ring Gear: 8.25”
Stock Gearing: 3.55, 3.73, 4.10
Axleshaft Spline: 27 ('91-'96), 29 ('96-'01)
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.17” (27 spline), 1.21 (29 spline)
Brakes: Drum 11”
Weakness: 27 spline, c-clip
Width: 60.5”
Wheel Bolt: 5x4.5”
Max Recommended Tire Size: 35”

Ford 8.8 Rear Axle
C-clip
Vehicles: Ford Explorer (Prefered Swap, information reflects Explorer only), Ford F-Series , Ford Ranger
Ring Gear: 8.8"
Stock Gearing: 3.08, 3.27, 3.55, 3.73, 4.10
Axleshaft Spline: 28, 31
Axleshaft Diameter: 1.320"
Brakes: Drum ('91-'94), Disc ('95-'01)
Weakness: C-clip, weak carrier
Width: 59.625" to 65.6"
Wheel Bolt: Most 5x4.5"
Max Recommended Tire Size: 40"

Ford 9 inch
vehicles: 57-'59 Ford station wagons, including Ranchero and sedan delivery
58-'90 F-100 and F-150 pickups
57-'67 Thunderbird
63-'69 Falcon and Comet
57-'64 Ford and Mercury full-size cars 63-'69 Fairlane (note: '67 Fairlanes had coil rear springs instead of leaf)
58-'60 Edsel
66-'77 Bronco (uses a larger five-on-51/2-inch wheel bolt pattern)
75-'78 Ford Granada and Mercury Monarch
71-'76 Torino, Ranchero and Mercury Montego
77-'81 Lincoln Versailles
70-'79 Lincoln and Continental
72-'86 E-250 Ford vans
65-'73 Mustang
67-'73 Cougar
Stock gearing:2.50,3.08, 3.27, 3.55, 3.73,4.11,4.30
Axleshaft Spline:28, 31
Axleshaft Diameter:
Brakes:
Width:
Wheel Bolt:
Max Recommended Tire Size:40"


AXLE STRENGHTS:
COT - Continuous Output Torque
MOT - Maximum Output Torque

Dana 35 ........................ COT: 870 MOT: 3480
AMC 20 .........................
Chrysler 8.25 .................
Dana 53 ........................
Dana 44 ........................ COT: 1100 MOT: 4460
Ford 8.8 28 spline ........... COT: 1250 MOT: 4600
Ford 8.8 31 spline ........... COT: 1360 MOT: 5100
Dana 60 semifloat ........... COT: 1500 MOT: 5500
Dana 70 ........................
Rockwell 2.5 Ton ............


IDENTIFICATION:
Tag Identification:
D30: “30” cast into back of diff casing on top right and left next to diff cover. Tag bolted on diff cover with axle ID and gear ratio.
D35: “35” cast into back of diff casing on top right and left next to diff cover. “C” next to “35” DOES NOT stand for c-clip, but “custom” (unfinished by Spicer). Tag bolted on diff cover with axle ID and gear ratio.
D44: In most cases “44” into back of diff casing on top right and left next to diff cover. Tag bolted on diff cover with axle ID and gear ratio.
D60: Similar looking casing to the D44, except the oil fill plug is elevated to provide more fluid for the larger gears.
Chrysler 8.25: Tag wrapped around passenger side tube with axle ID and gear ratio.
Ford 8.8: See Joe Dillard and T.Dome's writeup linked at the bottom of the page

Differential Cover Identification:
AMC 20: 12 cover bolts, round cover, fill plug not present
D27: 10 cover bolts, oval with straight sides, distinguished ring gear extension, low fill plug
D30: 10 cover bolts (five on top, five on bottom), oval cover w/flat sides, fill plug just below centerline
D35: 10 cover bolts, evenly spaced, oval "dome" shaped cover with low fill plug
D44: 10 cover bolts, hexagon shaped cover with very round edges, fill plug on centerline
D60: 10 cover bolts, hexagon shaped cover, fill plug on centerline
D70: 10 cover bolts, hexagon shaped cover, fill plug on centerline
Chrystler 8.25: 10 cover bolts, oval shaped cover, fill plug just below centerline
Ford 8.8: 10 cover bolts, square with very round edges, fill plug not present on cover




Gear Identification:
If the gears are unidentifiable from the tag or if the tag is missing, there are two methods to find the gear ratio.

1) Spin the tire one full rotation and watch how far the driveshaft rotates. Double the amount the driveshaft rotated, this gives you your gear ratio. Be sure you are spinning the tire forwards.

2) Count ring & pinion gears: Count the number of teeth on the ring and the pinion. Then divide the ring teeth by the pinion teeth to attain the gear ratio.


And thanks to:

Travis Waldher
Pirate4x4 Addict!

for some changes.

1) The AMC20 that came under the CJ is a different animal from the one that came under the waggie. A waggies pumpkin webbing is different, tubes are plug welded in to the housing, 29 spline. I think 2.21 was also a gear option -- I think. One perc to at least the waggie version is the massive pinion - the shaft is the same diameter as a D60.
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Posted 19 December 2008 - 02:37 AM

Looks Good MiniB...

I think some of the time size recommendations could be shifted some with the addition of higher spline Chromo shafts and upgraded u-joints etc... still a good starting point for "stock" stuff.
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Posted 19 December 2008 - 02:53 AM

I know according to what I bee reading the 8.8 is good up to 40's. So I can keep the 8.8 and run my 37's. Just need to up the 30 to a 44 now. Anyone?
Like my girl says, "Bigger is not always better, sometimes it will hurt in the end!"
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Posted 19 December 2008 - 09:35 AM

Problem is, there's no easy way to do it. It either requires a lot of work, or a lot of money (or both). :(

Jeep on!
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#5 MiNi Beast

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 11:34 AM

I figured eariler on a full spool 4.88 and alloy shaft with c-clip elimanators for the 8.8 and figure a 44 with lockouts for the front and upgrade as well the shafts and for my wheeling style should get a few good seasons out of them.
Then if need bigger to to go to a real frame.

Or hey you know I could win the lottery. :fool: Well have to play first I guess :doh:
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Posted 19 December 2008 - 02:55 PM

IMHO, C-clips eliminators and lockouts are both overrated. If they come with the axle already, so be it, but I wouldn't pay for them. My hubs are only used on the road because I have that stupid minispool up front (which I hate and am removing) and you have to break a shaft before the C-clip becomes an annoyance. Good luck with that. :thumbsup: And take some video of it happening. :clapping:

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:10 PM

Told by Superior to run the full spool have to use the CCE. SO why not only like $650 for everything so might as well.
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Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:19 PM

Ahhhh, so it's required to run one of your other goodies. Gotcha. :D

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